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From: devzero@web.de
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Where do we stand with the Xen patches?
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:46:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <720427516@web.de> (raw)

> >> As in the past, my main worry is performance overhead of paravirt in
> >> general.
> >>
> >> The patches that dont affect any native kernel fast path are
> >> probably OK (but still pending final review).
> >>
> >> Regarding patches that do change the fastpath i'll do a round of
> >> measurements of CONFIG_PARAVIRT against !CONFIG_PARAVIRT kernels,
> >> and make up my mind based on that.
> >>
> >> You could accelerate this by sending some "perf stat" hard numbers
> >> to give us an idea about where we stand today.
> >>
> >> 	Ingo
> >
> > maybe this is iust a stupid comment (please forgive, i?m no advanced kernel
> > hacker), but can?t the code inserted by the patches and which changes the
> > fastpath just #IFDEF`ed at the critical offsets ?  (as building a dom0 kernel is
> > just another build target, isn`t it ?)
> 
> no, if dom0 is going to be widely deployed, it will be because the distros 
> turn on dom0 support by default. as a result any penalties due to xen 
> support will be felt by all users of those distros (even if they don't use 
> xen)
> 
> David Lang

so what?

print a huge warning on boot that running dom0 for xen may affect performance and that 
you should better run a normal kernel instead if you don`t use xen , and you`re done.

or is maintaining two different kernel packages a problem?

if so, instead of using IFDEF`s, can`t the critical path`s being generously circumvented 
by default, (if, else...), needing some dom0 kernel bootparam to be activated (i.e. use
the kernel as dom0 kernel) ?

or is this too short-sighted view of the things ?

regards
roland




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             reply	other threads:[~2009-05-17 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-17 19:46 devzero [this message]
2009-05-18  1:54 ` Where do we stand with the Xen patches? Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-19 13:10   ` Chris Mason
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-17 18:37 devzero
2009-05-17 19:25 ` david
2009-05-17 19:33   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-14 19:54 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 18:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-15 19:59   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-18  1:36 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-18  1:42   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-18  8:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19  5:27     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-19 13:03       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 15:30         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-19 15:56           ` Ian Campbell
2009-05-20 17:06             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-21  8:54               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-21 10:27                 ` Ian Campbell
2009-05-21 10:28                   ` Ian Campbell
2009-05-21 10:39                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-21 10:48                 ` Ian Campbell

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