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From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: garzik@havoc.gtf.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	vandrove@vc.cvut.cz, torvalds@transmeta.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulus@samba.org,
	davidm@hpl.hp.com, ralf@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: crc32 and lib.a (was Re: [PATCH] nbd in 2.5.3 does
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 17:43:57 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7507.1012545837@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:26:43 -0800." <20020131.222643.85689058.davem@redhat.com>

On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:26:43 -0800 (PST), 
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com> wrote:
>If you have a dependency concern, you put yourself in the
>right initcall group.  You don't depend ever on the order within the
>group, thats the whole idea.  You can't depend on that, so you must
>group things correctly.

Again this is exactly what I argued back in 2000.  I have long held
that the kernel link order is over defined where it should be fuzzy.
Defining an order between groups but not within groups is exactly what
I wanted but I was told that the initialization order must be
explicitly and fully specified for the entire kernel.  Nice to see that
I have been proved right, pity it took this long.  C'est la vie.

The Makefiles still control order within the .text.init section
(__init, module_init).  Many drivers depend on the Makefile getting
that order correct, otherwise probes stuff up.  But which entries are
order sensitive and which ones are from a developer picking a random
place to insert obj-$(CONFIG) is anyone's guess.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-01  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20020131.162549.74750188.davem@redhat.com>
2002-02-01  0:42 ` [PATCH] Re: crc32 and lib.a (was Re: [PATCH] nbd in 2.5.3 does Alan Cox
2002-02-01  0:30   ` David S. Miller
2002-02-01  3:46     ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01  4:25       ` David S. Miller
2002-02-01  4:48         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01  5:59           ` David S. Miller
2002-02-01  5:10         ` Keith Owens
2002-02-01  5:12           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01  5:18             ` Keith Owens
2002-02-01 13:42               ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-03 23:34                 ` Keith Owens
2002-02-04 20:14                   ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-01  6:01           ` David S. Miller
2002-02-01  6:11             ` Keith Owens
2002-02-01  6:26               ` David S. Miller
2002-02-01  6:43                 ` Keith Owens [this message]
2002-02-01 15:03                 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-01 14:55                   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01 15:12                     ` Petr Vandrovec
2002-02-01 15:29                       ` VESA Anybody out there Martin Dalecki
2002-02-01 15:42                         ` Davidovac Zoran
2002-02-01 16:21                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-01 16:33                             ` Thomas Capricelli
2002-02-01 16:53                               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-01 16:35                             ` Sergey S. Kostyliov
2002-02-01 16:37                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-02-01 16:33                         ` Petr Baudis
2002-02-01 17:45                         ` The Candyman
2002-02-02 13:41                           ` Andreas Happe
2002-02-02 21:09                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-02-05 17:05                         ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-01 16:08                     ` [PATCH] Re: crc32 and lib.a (was Re: [PATCH] nbd in 2.5.3 does David Woodhouse
2002-02-04 13:24                     ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-05  7:51                       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01  4:18     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-01  4:35       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01 15:19     ` Alan Cox
2002-02-01 19:37     ` Rob Landley
2002-02-01 19:50       ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-31 22:59 [PATCH] Re: crc32 and lib.a (was Re: [PATCH] nbd in 2.5.3 does not David S. Miller
2002-01-31 23:24 ` [PATCH] Re: crc32 and lib.a (was Re: [PATCH] nbd in 2.5.3 does Alan Cox
2002-01-31 23:21   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-02-02 16:32     ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-02-02 12:57       ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-02 13:16         ` arjan
2002-02-02 13:52           ` Jens Axboe
2002-02-03 11:37       ` David Woodhouse
2002-01-31 23:43   ` Jeff Garzik
2002-01-31 23:45   ` David S. Miller
2002-02-01  0:32     ` Alan Cox
2002-02-01 10:07     ` Horst von Brand
2002-02-01 10:28       ` Keith Owens
2002-02-01 11:03         ` David S. Miller
2002-02-01 11:25           ` Keith Owens
2002-02-01 14:56             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-01  8:14   ` David Woodhouse
2002-02-02  2:12   ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-02-02  3:01     ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-02  7:30       ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-02-02  7:42         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-02  8:08           ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-02 19:20             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-02  8:06         ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-02  8:08         ` Keith Owens
2002-02-02  8:40           ` David Woodhouse
2002-02-02  8:59             ` Keith Owens
2002-02-02  9:14               ` David Woodhouse
2002-02-03  4:14   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-03  7:01     ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-03  9:13       ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-02-03 12:16       ` David Woodhouse
2002-02-03 12:33         ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-02-03 12:47         ` David Woodhouse
2002-02-03 13:40       ` Alan Cox

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