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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>, Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18 12/23] cpu_opv: Provide cpu_opv system call (v7)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:28:14 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <751033048.11156.1523896094938.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180412202302.xnw5jdl3upl46ywt@two.firstfloor.org>

----- On Apr 12, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Andi Kleen andi@firstfloor.org wrote:

>> Can we plan on merging just the plain rseq parts *without* this all
>> first, and then see the cpu_opv thing as a "maybe future expansion"
>> part.
> 
> That would be the right way to go. I doubt anybody really needs cpu_opv.
> We already have other code (e.g. vgettimeofday) which cannot
> be single stepped, and so far it never was a problem.

Single-stepping is only a subset of the rseq limitations addressed
by cpu_opv. Anoher major limitation is algorithms requiring data
migration between per-cpu data structures safely against CPU hotplug,
and without having to change the cpu affinity mask. This is the case
for memory allocators and userspace task schedulers which require
cpu_opv for migration between per-cpu memory pools and scheduler
runqueues.

About the vgettimeofday and general handling of vDSO by gdb, gdb's
approach only takes care of line-by-line single-stepping by hiding
Linux' vdso mapping so users cannot target source code lines within
that shared object. However, it breaks instruction-level single-stepping.
I reported this issue to you back in Nov. 2017:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/11/20/803

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-16 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-12 19:27 [RFC PATCH for 4.18 00/23] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 01/23] uapi headers: Provide types_32_64.h (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 02/23] rseq: Introduce restartable sequences system call (v13) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 03/23] arm: Add restartable sequences support Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 04/23] arm: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 05/23] x86: Add support for restartable sequences (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 06/23] x86: Wire up restartable sequence system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 07/23] powerpc: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 08/23] powerpc: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 09/23] sched: Implement push_task_to_cpu (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 10/23] mm: Introduce vm_map_user_ram, vm_unmap_user_ram Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 11/23] mm: Provide is_vma_noncached Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 12/23] cpu_opv: Provide cpu_opv system call (v7) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:43   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-12 19:59     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 20:07       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-13 12:16         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-13 16:37           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-13 18:06             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 20:23     ` Andi Kleen
2018-04-16 16:28       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2018-04-16 17:02         ` Andi Kleen
2018-04-14 22:44     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-04-16 18:35       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-16 18:39         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-16 19:21           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-16 19:26             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-04-16 20:58               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-05-04 14:32                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 13/23] x86: Wire up cpu_opv system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 14/23] powerpc: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 15/23] arm: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 16/23] selftests: lib.mk: Introduce OVERRIDE_TARGETS Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 17/23] cpu_opv: selftests: Implement selftests (v7) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 18/23] rseq: selftests: Provide rseq library (v5) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 19/23] rseq: selftests: Provide percpu_op API Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 20/23] rseq: selftests: Provide basic test Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 21/23] rseq: selftests: Provide basic percpu ops test Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 22/23] rseq: selftests: Provide parametrized tests Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-12 19:28 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.18 23/23] rseq: selftests: Provide Makefile, scripts, gitignore Mathieu Desnoyers

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