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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: bryan.wu@analog.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm] utrace: nommu fixup support utrace
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:10:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7689.1173265837@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070307034216.472921801C4@magilla.sf.frob.com>

Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com> wrote:

> That old ptrace check seems pretty questionable to me.  I think what you
> want is for the nommu world's get_user_pages/access_process_vm when called
> with force=1,write=1 on a read-only MAP_PRIVATE page to do something more
> morally similar to the mmu world's COW than it does now.

Such as what?  You *can't* do COW without relocating all the pointers userspace
may have into that VMA.  However, unless you force non-sharing of R/O
MAP_PRIVATE VMAs, you will have text segments of executables and libraries
shared with other processes.  Imagine: you set a breakpoint in uclibc read()
and your whole system dies instantly.

What I did is to say that if a process has PT_TRACED set then the MAP_PRIVATE
VMAs start with their own copies.  The debugger can set this in a new process
by cloning it with appropriate CLONE_xxx flags.

It's not perfect, I know, but it's the best I could come up with as a solution
to debugging things in a NOMMU environment that supports shared libraries and
executables.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-07 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-06  7:25 [PATCH -mm] utrace: nommu fixup support utrace Wu, Bryan
2007-03-06  9:37 ` David Howells
2007-03-06  9:49   ` Wu, Bryan
2007-03-07  3:42 ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-07 11:10   ` David Howells [this message]
2007-03-09  7:37     ` Roland McGrath
2007-03-09 11:41       ` David Howells

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