From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 14:09:53 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <775833760.11858.1530641393364.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxcVbG2DMmmrW-HLTXZE+rcBWc5F48UYoL2heEsEpyO=g@mail.gmail.com>
----- On Jul 3, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Linus Torvalds torvalds@linux-foundation.org wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:49 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I can simply document that loads/stores from/to all struct rseq fields
>> > should be thread-local then ?
>>
>> I'm not sure that covers things sufficiently. You really want the
>> userspace load/stores to be single instructions.
>
> Actually, I think we should try very hard to limit even that to _just_
> the rseq pointer itself.
>
> Everything else can be filled in ahead of time with non-atomic stores,
> and then the last thing that happens - and the only thing that wants
> that final "one last atomic write" is the rseq pointer write.
>
> No?
Well a small nit here: the rseq->rseq_cs pointer store is performed
at the _very beginning_ of the rseq critical section. We indeed want
that store to be performed as a single instruction by user-space.
What I think you have in mind as "one last atomic write" is the commit
instruction at the end of the critical section, which does not touch
any field in struct rseq.
>
> So I'd suggest that the only part we aim to have any "atomic" behavior
> at all is for the individual fields in "struct rseq" itself. So the
> cpu id and the base pointer and the flags. And even they are
> thread-local, so the atomicity is not about the kernel, but about user
> space needing to read and update them in word-sized chunks.
>
> End result: absolutely nothing is atomic for the kernel.
Yes, +1. If everyone is OK with that I'll go and implement the changes
within the coming day.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-03 18:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-02 22:31 [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 22:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 1:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 2:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 2:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 2:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 2:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 8:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 8:29 ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 8:55 ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03 9:17 ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 9:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 16:40 ` Andi Kleen
2018-07-03 17:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 17:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 19:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 18:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2018-07-03 18:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 0:19 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03 0:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 0:35 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03 1:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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