From: Danny Tsen <dtsen@linux.ibm.com>
To: Andy Polyakov <appro@cryptogams.org>, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Cc: herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, leitao@debian.org,
nayna@linux.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au,
ltcgcw@linux.vnet.ibm.com, dtsen@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] crypto: X25519 core functions for ppc64le
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 08:58:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7859e867-ddf4-494f-8ddb-2949aafbb40a@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7eb6bf4b-5510-48fe-aa6c-ac5207d5a2c1@cryptogams.org>
Hi Andy,
Thanks for the info. I should be able to do it. I was hoping an
assembly guru like you can show me some tricks here if there is :)
Thanks.
-Danny
On 5/15/24 8:33 AM, Andy Polyakov wrote:
>>> +static void cswap(fe51 p, fe51 q, unsigned int bit)
>>> +{
>>> + u64 t, i;
>>> + u64 c = 0 - (u64) bit;
>>> +
>>> + for (i = 0; i < 5; ++i) {
>>> + t = c & (p[i] ^ q[i]);
>>> + p[i] ^= t;
>>> + q[i] ^= t;
>>> + }
>>> +}
>>
>> The "c" in cswap stands for "constant-time," and the problem is that
>> contemporary compilers have exhibited the ability to produce
>> non-constant-time machine code as result of compilation of the above
>> kind of technique. The outcome is platform-specific and ironically
>> some of PPC code generators were observed to generate "most"
>> non-constant-time code. "Most" in sense that execution time
>> variations would be most easy to catch.
>
> Just to substantiate the point, consider
> https://godbolt.org/z/faYnEcPT7, and note the conditional branch in
> the middle of the loop, which flies in the face of constant-time-ness.
> In case you object 'bit &= 1' on line 7 in the C code. Indeed, if you
> comment it out, the generated code will be fine. But the point is that
> the compiler is capable of and was in fact observed to figure out that
> the caller passes either one or zero and generate the machine code in
> the assembly window. In other words 'bit &= 1' is just a reflection of
> what the caller does.
>
>> ... the permanent solution is to do it in assembly. I can put
>> together something...
>
> Though you should be able to do this just as well :-) So should I or
> would you?
>
> Cheers.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-15 13:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-14 17:38 [PATCH 0/3] crypto: X25519 supports for ppc64le Danny Tsen
2024-05-14 17:38 ` [PATCH 1/3] crypto: X25519 low-level primitives " Danny Tsen
2024-05-15 8:11 ` Andy Polyakov
2024-05-15 12:59 ` Danny Tsen
2024-05-15 9:06 ` Andy Polyakov
2024-05-15 13:04 ` Danny Tsen
2024-05-16 4:53 ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-16 8:38 ` Andy Polyakov
2024-05-16 11:39 ` Danny Tsen
2024-05-16 12:06 ` Michael Ellerman
2024-05-16 13:42 ` Andy Polyakov
2024-05-16 19:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2024-05-16 11:38 ` Danny Tsen
2024-05-14 17:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] crypto: X25519 core functions " Danny Tsen
2024-05-15 8:29 ` Andy Polyakov
2024-05-15 13:06 ` Danny Tsen
2024-05-15 13:33 ` Andy Polyakov
2024-05-15 13:58 ` Danny Tsen [this message]
2024-05-15 14:20 ` Andy Polyakov
2024-05-16 19:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2024-05-14 17:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] crypto: Update Kconfig and Makefile for ppc64le x25519 Danny Tsen
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