From: Vitalii Bursov <vitaly@bursov.com>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] docs: cgroup-v1: clarify that domain levels are system-specific
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 13:35:03 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <78c60269-5aee-45d7-8014-2c0188f972da@bursov.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3d85926d-378a-4d5e-8303-92461bd3b100@linux.ibm.com>
On 01.04.24 07:05, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
>
>
> On 3/31/24 9:31 PM, Vitalii Bursov wrote:
>> Add a clarification that domain levels are system-specific
>> and where to check for system details.
>>
>> Add CPU clusters to the scheduler domain levels table.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Vitalii Bursov <vitaly@bursov.com>
>> ---
>> Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v1/cpusets.rst | 16 +++++++++++-----
>> 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v1/cpusets.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v1/cpusets.rst
>> index 7d3415eea..d16a3967d 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v1/cpusets.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v1/cpusets.rst
>> @@ -568,19 +568,25 @@ on the next tick. For some applications in special situation, waiting
>>
>> The 'cpuset.sched_relax_domain_level' file allows you to request changing
>> this searching range as you like. This file takes int value which
>> -indicates size of searching range in levels ideally as follows,
>> +indicates size of searching range in levels approximately as follows,
>> otherwise initial value -1 that indicates the cpuset has no request.
>>
>> ====== ===========================================================
>> -1 no request. use system default or follow request of others.
>> 0 no search.
>> 1 search siblings (hyperthreads in a core).
>> - 2 search cores in a package.
>> - 3 search cpus in a node [= system wide on non-NUMA system]
>> - 4 search nodes in a chunk of node [on NUMA system]
>> - 5 search system wide [on NUMA system]
>> + 2 search cpu clusters
>> + 3 search cores in a package.
>> + 4 search cpus in a node [= system wide on non-NUMA system]
>> + 5 search nodes in a chunk of node [on NUMA system]
>> + 6 search system wide [on NUMA system]
>
> I think above block of documentation need not change. SD_CLUSTER is a software
> construct, not a sched domain per se.
>
I added "cpu clusters" because the original table:
====== ===========================================================
-1 no request. use system default or follow request of others.
0 no search.
1 search siblings (hyperthreads in a core).
2 search cores in a package.
3 search cpus in a node [= system wide on non-NUMA system]
4 search nodes in a chunk of node [on NUMA system]
5 search system wide [on NUMA system]
====== ===========================================================
does not match to what I see on a few systems I checked.
AMD Ryzen and the same dual-CPU Intel server with NUMA disabled:
level:0 - SMT
level:2 - MC
level:3 - PKG
Server with NUMA enabled:
level:0 - SMT
level:2 - MC
level:5 - NUMA
So, for the relax level original table:
1 -> enables 0 SMP -> OK
2 -> enables 1 unknown -> does not enable cores in a package
3 -> enables 2 MC -> OK for NUMA, but not system wide on non-NUMA system
5 -> enables 4 unknown -> does not enable system wide on NUMA
The updated table
====== ===========================================================
-1 no request. use system default or follow request of others.
0 no search.
1 search siblings (hyperthreads in a core).
2 search cpu clusters
3 search cores in a package.
4 search cpus in a node [= system wide on non-NUMA system]
5 search nodes in a chunk of node [on NUMA system]
6 search system wide [on NUMA system]
====== ===========================================================
would work like this:
1 -> enables 0 SMP -> OK
2 -> enables 1 unknown -> does nothing new
3 -> enables 2 MC -> OK, cores in a package for NUMA and non-NUMA system
4 -> enables 3 PKG -> OK on non-NUMA system
6 -> enables 5 NUMA -> OK
I think it would look more correct on "average" systems, but anyway,
please confirm and I'll remove the table update in an updated patch.
Thanks
> IMO the next paragraph that is added is good enough and the above change can be removed.
>> ====== ===========================================================
>>
>> +Not all levels can be present and values can change depending on the
>> +system architecture and kernel configuration. Check
>> +/sys/kernel/debug/sched/domains/cpu*/domain*/ for system-specific
>> +details.
>> +
>> The system default is architecture dependent. The system default
>> can be changed using the relax_domain_level= boot parameter.
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-01 10:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-31 16:01 [PATCH v2 0/3] sched/fair: allow disabling sched_balance_newidle with sched_relax_domain_level Vitalii Bursov
2024-03-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Vitalii Bursov
2024-04-01 10:23 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-03-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] sched/debug: dump domains' level Vitalii Bursov
2024-03-31 16:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] docs: cgroup-v1: clarify that domain levels are system-specific Vitalii Bursov
2024-04-01 4:05 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-04-01 10:35 ` Vitalii Bursov [this message]
2024-04-01 13:30 ` Shrikanth Hegde
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