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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: "Yao, Yuan" <yuan.yao@intel.com>,
	"nik.borisov@suse.com" <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	"dmatlack@google.com" <dmatlack@google.com>,
	"isaku.yamahata@gmail.com" <isaku.yamahata@gmail.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/21] KVM: TDX: Retry seamcall when TDX_OPERAND_BUSY with operand SEPT
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 20:25:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79284e4134ff7de08695a3df4dab643ceb3b458a.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4cd18b6e-5e64-4b7d-9dbc-fd4c293cb4db@intel.com>

On Fri, 2024-09-06 at 13:41 +1200, Huang, Kai wrote:
> 3) That means the _ONLY_ reason to retry in the common code for 
> TDH_MEM_xx()s is to mitigate zero-step attack by reducing the times of 
> letting guest to fault on the same instruction.

My read of the zero-step mitigation is that it is implemented in the TDX module.
(which makes sense since it is defending against VMMs). There is some optional
ability for the guest to request notification, but the host defense is always in
place. Is that your understanding?

> 
> I don't think we need to handle zero-step attack mitigation in the first 
> TDX support submission.  So I think we can just remove this patch.

Thanks for highlighting the weirdness here. I think it needs more investigation.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-09 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-04  3:07 [PATCH 00/21] TDX MMU Part 2 Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 01/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Implement memslot deletion for TDX Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 13:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-09 21:06     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 02/21] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 13:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 03/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Do not enable page track for TD guest Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 13:53   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-09 21:07     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 04/21] KVM: VMX: Split out guts of EPT violation to common/exposed function Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 13:57   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-09 16:07   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10  7:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 05/21] KVM: VMX: Teach EPT violation helper about private mem Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 13:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11  8:52   ` Chao Gao
2024-09-11 16:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12  0:39   ` Huang, Kai
2024-09-12 13:58     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-12 14:43       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12 14:46         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12  1:19   ` Huang, Kai
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 06/21] KVM: TDX: Add accessors VMX VMCS helpers Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 14:19   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-09 21:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 10:48       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 07/21] KVM: TDX: Add load_mmu_pgd method for TDX Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-11  2:48   ` Chao Gao
2024-09-11  2:49     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 08/21] KVM: TDX: Set gfn_direct_bits to shared bit Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 15:21   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 09/21] KVM: TDX: Retry seamcall when TDX_OPERAND_BUSY with operand SEPT Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-06  1:41   ` Huang, Kai
2024-09-09 20:25     ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2024-09-09 15:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-09 20:22     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-09 21:11       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-09 21:23         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-09 22:34           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-09 23:58             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10  0:50               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10  1:46                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-11  1:17               ` Huang, Kai
2024-09-11  2:48                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-11 22:55                   ` Huang, Kai
2024-09-10 13:15         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 13:57           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 15:16             ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 15:57               ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 16:28                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 17:42                   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-13  8:36                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-13 17:23                       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-13 19:19                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-13 22:18                           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-14  9:27                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-15  9:53                           ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-17  1:31                             ` Huang, Kai
2024-09-25 10:53                           ` Yan Zhao
2024-10-08 14:51                             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-10  5:23                               ` Yan Zhao
2024-10-10 17:33                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-10 21:53                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-11  2:30                                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-10-14 10:54                                     ` Huang, Kai
2024-10-14 17:36                                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-14 23:03                                         ` Huang, Kai
2024-10-15  1:24                                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-11  2:06                                   ` Yan Zhao
2024-10-16 14:13                                   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-17  2:11                         ` Huang, Kai
2024-09-13 19:19                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-14 10:00                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 10/21] KVM: TDX: Require TDP MMU and mmio caching for TDX Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 15:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12  0:15   ` Huang, Kai
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 11/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Add setter for shadow_mmio_value Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 15:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 12/21] KVM: TDX: Set per-VM shadow_mmio_value to 0 Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 15:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 13/21] KVM: TDX: Handle TLB tracking for TDX Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10  8:16   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 23:49     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-14  6:34     ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-11  6:25   ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-11 17:28     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12  4:54       ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-12 14:44         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12  7:47       ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 14/21] KVM: TDX: Implement hooks to propagate changes of TDP MMU mirror page table Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-06  2:10   ` Huang, Kai
2024-09-09 21:03     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10  1:52       ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-10  9:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 23:58         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-11  1:05           ` Yan Zhao
2024-10-30  3:03   ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-04  9:09     ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 15/21] KVM: TDX: Implement hook to get max mapping level of private pages Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 10:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 16/21] KVM: TDX: Premap initial guest memory Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 10:24   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11  0:19     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-13 13:33       ` Adrian Hunter
2024-09-13 19:49         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 10:49   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11  0:30     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-11 10:39       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 16:36         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 17/21] KVM: TDX: MTRR: implement get_mt_mask() for TDX Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 10:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 14:05     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 18/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Export kvm_tdp_map_page() Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 10:02   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 19/21] KVM: TDX: Add an ioctl to create initial guest memory Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-04  4:53   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-04 14:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-06 16:30       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-09  1:29         ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-10 10:13         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11  0:11           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-04 13:56   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 10:16   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11  0:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 20/21] KVM: TDX: Finalize VM initialization Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-04 15:37   ` Adrian Hunter
2024-09-04 16:09     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 10:33     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 11:15       ` Adrian Hunter
2024-09-10 11:28         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 11:31         ` Adrian Hunter
2024-09-10 10:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 11:54     ` Adrian Hunter
2024-09-04  3:07 ` [PATCH 21/21] KVM: TDX: Handle vCPU dissociation Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-09 15:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-09 23:30     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 10:45   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11  0:17     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-04  9:45     ` Yan Zhao

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