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From: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>
To: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, baohua@kernel.org,
	axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	peiyang_he@smail.nju.edu.cn, mhocko@kernel.org,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, ljs@kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: mglru: fix stale batch updates after memcg reparenting
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:14:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7946da94-dc1d-4cf2-986e-466c378665b6@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8a76aefd-629c-41f3-b365-aefd4cc1411e@kernel.org>

Hi Harry,

On 6/23/26 4:18 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/23/26 4:16 PM, Qi Zheng wrote:
>> Hi Harry,
> 
> Hi Qi!
> 
>> On 6/23/26 2:17 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>> On 6/23/26 11:42 AM, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>> From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>>
>>>> The mglru page table walker batches per-generation size deltas in
>>>> walk->nr_pages while walking page tables without holding the lruvec
>>>> lock.
>>>> The reset_batch_size() later folds those deltas into walk->lruvec under
>>>> the lruvec lock.
>>>
>>> Ouch.
>>>
>>> IIRC the user-visible impact of underestimated nr_pages in MGLRU
>>> was premature OOMs because MGLRU does not try to reclaim memory when
>>> nr_pages reaches zero, but there are still more pages.
>>>
>>> Perhaps worth mentioning in the changelog?
>>
>> Maybe this should be placed before "To fix it...".
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>>>> The page table walker can run concurrently with the memcg reparenting
>>>> path
>>>> as follows:
>>>>
>>>> CPU0                           CPU1
>>>> ====                           ====
>>>>
>>>> walk_mm
>>>> --> walk_page_range
>>>>       --> update_batch_size
>>>>           --> walk->nr_pages += delta
>>>>
>>>>                                 mem_cgroup_css_offline
>>>>                                 --> memcg_reparent_objcgs
>>>>                                     --> lock lruvec
>>>>                                         lru_gen_reparent_memcg
>>>>                                         --> reparent child folios to
>>>> parent
>>>>                                         unlock lruvec
>>>>
>>>>       lock lruvec
>>>>       reset_batch_size
>>>>       --> child lrugen->nr_pages += delta
>>>
>>> The problem here is that, while grabbing a reference to memcg
>>> (via mem_cgroup_iter(), for example) makes sure that the memcg is not
>>> freed, it does not prevent offlining happening, and reset_batch_size()
>>> doesn't check whether the lruvec has been reparented, or the lruvec
>>> is going to be reparented.
>>>
>>>> This will trigger the following warning in lru_gen_exit_memcg():
>>>>
>>>>      VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(memchr_inv(lruvec->lrugen.nr_pages, 0,
>>>>                     sizeof(lruvec->lrugen.nr_pages)));
>>>>
>>>> To fix it, add lrugen->reparented to remember the new owner of a
>>>> reparented lruvec, and make reset_batch_size() charge pending deltas to
>>>> that owner.
>>>
>>> Could you please explain why it is unavoidable to introduce the new
>>> field and why checking whether the cgroup is dying (and charging deltas
>>> to non-dying parent) doesn't work?
>>
>> Peiyang tried doing this [1], but it doesn't work because
>> ss->css_offline() is called before clearing the CSS_ONLINE flag.
> 
> Right.
> 
>> I also considered using mem_cgroup_tryget_online(), but that only prevent
>> the memcg from being freed. It's doesn't prevent the offlining.
> 
> Right.
> 
> I think checking CSS_DYING under RCU and grabbing the lruvec
> of the first non-dying memcg should work (this pattern is already
> used where we use RCU to guarantee memcgs are not freed).
> 
> If we do not observe CSS_DYING flag, it is safe to charge deltas
> to the lruvec because RCU guarantees that reparenting cannot happen
> under us.
> 
> If we do observe CSS_DYING, we can walk up the hierarchy and charge
> deltas to the first non-dying memcg.

Checking CSS_DYING looks feasible, but the rcu lock alone cannot prevent
reparenting. We should recheck CSS_DYING after acquiring the lruvec
lock, otherwise we might run into the following race:

   CPU0 reset_batch_size              CPU1 memcg teardown
   =====================              ==================

   read !CSS_DYING

                                      set CSS_DYING
                                      memcg_reparent_objcgs()
                                      lock child lruvec
                                      move child to parent
                                      zero child nr_pages
                                      unlock child lruvec

   lock child lruvec
   charge stale delta to child

So it seems lock_batch_lruvec() should be implemented like this:

static struct lruvec *lock_batch_lruvec(struct lruvec *lruvec)
{
	struct mem_cgroup *memcg = lruvec_memcg(lruvec);

	rcu_read_lock();
retry:
	while (memcg && css_is_dying(&memcg->css))
		memcg = parent_mem_cgroup(memcg);

	lruvec = mem_cgroup_lruvec(memcg, pgdat);
	spin_lock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
	if (memcg && unlikely(css_is_dying(&memcg->css))) {
		spin_unlock_irq(&lruvec->lru_lock);
		goto retry;
	}

	rcu_read_unlock();

	return lruvec;
}

This way, there is no need to add lrugen->reparented, right?

Thanks,
Qi


      reply	other threads:[~2026-06-23  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-23  2:42 [PATCH v2] mm: mglru: fix stale batch updates after memcg reparenting Qi Zheng
2026-06-23  2:56 ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-23  4:03 ` Baolin Wang
2026-06-23  6:17 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-23  7:16   ` Qi Zheng
2026-06-23  8:18     ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-23  9:14       ` Qi Zheng [this message]

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