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From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 12/23] virt: Introduce steal monitor driver
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 12:17:47 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <796920fb-7355-4c5f-aa7c-6ff8a4c55b7a@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <akv4vGpII2tx4gSZ@yury>

Hi Yury,

On 7/7/26 12:19 AM, Yury Norov wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 06, 2026 at 01:54:05PM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/26 11:57 PM, Yury Norov wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2026 at 02:20:32PM -0400, Yury Norov wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 07:46:43PM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
>>>>> Introduce a new driver in virt named steal_monitor. This driver
>>>>> will compute the steal time and drive the policy decisions of preferred
>>>>> CPU state.
>>>>>
>>>>> More on it can be found in the Documentation/driver-api/steal-monitor.rst
>>>>> Introduce the skeleton code first.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no new kconfig. It depends on CONFIG_PREFERRED_CPU.
>>>>> - If CONFIG_PREFERRED_CPU=y, it gets compiled as a module. It is not
>>>>>     loaded by default.
>>>
>>> What if I've got my own monitor, and don't need this one? Please add a
>>> way to not compile it, even if CONFIG_PREFERRED_CPU is enabled.
>>>
>>
>> You mean make a new config like VIRT_MONITOR depend on CONFIG_PREFERRED_CPU and
>> make it as default n?
>>
>> Can we defer this until such a new monitor is needed?
>> We will in state where CONFIG_PREFERRED_CPU=y & VIRT_MONITOR=n.
> 
> I think the VIRT_MONITOR should select PREFERRED_CPU. Whether
> PREFERRED_CPU should be enabled without an in-tree driver using it -
> IDK. Probably yes.
> 

That's good idea too. User has to enable VIRT_MONITOR, that will select
PREFERRED_CPU. If any other driver wants this feature, it will have to do the
same. Assumption is whichever driver selects PREFERRED_CPU, it has to ensure that
design constrains are met.

I did below. I think this is what you meant. Let me know if i got it wrong.

---

diff --git a/drivers/virt/Kconfig b/drivers/virt/Kconfig
index 52eb7e4ba71f..a52233b2502e 100644
--- a/drivers/virt/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/virt/Kconfig
@@ -47,6 +47,8 @@ source "drivers/virt/nitro_enclaves/Kconfig"
  
  source "drivers/virt/acrn/Kconfig"
  
+source "drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Kconfig"
+
  endif
  
  source "drivers/virt/coco/Kconfig"
diff --git a/drivers/virt/Makefile b/drivers/virt/Makefile
index aff715cea42d..b67fd8968ec3 100644
--- a/drivers/virt/Makefile
+++ b/drivers/virt/Makefile
@@ -9,5 +9,5 @@ obj-y                           += vboxguest/
  
  obj-$(CONFIG_NITRO_ENCLAVES)   += nitro_enclaves/
  obj-$(CONFIG_ACRN_HSM)         += acrn/
-obj-$(CONFIG_PREFERRED_CPU)    += steal_monitor/
+obj-$(CONFIG_STEAL_MONITOR)    += steal_monitor/
  obj-y                          += coco/
diff --git a/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Kconfig b/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Kconfig
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..efb94b3a60e4
--- /dev/null
+++ b/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Kconfig
@@ -0,0 +1,15 @@
+# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
+config STEAL_MONITOR
+       tristate "Dynamic vCPU management based on steal time"
+       depends on PARAVIRT && SMP
+       select PREFERRED_CPU
+       default m
+       help
+         This feature helps to reduce the steal time in paravirtualised
+         environment, there by reducing vCPU preemption. Reducing vCPU
+         preemption provides improved lock holder preemption and reduces
+         cost of vCPU preemption in the host.
+
+         By default preferred CPUs will be same as active CPUs. Depending
+         on the steal time when steal_monitor driver is enabled,
+         preferred CPUs could become subset of active CPUs.
diff --git a/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Makefile b/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Makefile
index 7c16f8cf9583..d206e048a9ea 100644
--- a/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Makefile
+++ b/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Makefile
@@ -9,6 +9,6 @@
  # It is always compiled as module if CONFIG_PREFERRED_CPU=y
  # One has to enable the module.
  #
-obj-$(subst y,m,$(CONFIG_PREFERRED_CPU)) += steal_monitor.o
+obj-$(CONFIG_STEAL_MONITOR) += steal_monitor.o
  
  steal_monitor-y := sm_core.o defaults.o
diff --git a/kernel/Kconfig.preempt b/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
index 01b908ff1740..ed02e4431230 100644
--- a/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
+++ b/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
@@ -194,15 +194,4 @@ config SCHED_CLASS_EXT
             https://github.com/sched-ext/scx
  
  config PREFERRED_CPU
-       bool "Dynamic vCPU management based on steal time"
-       depends on PARAVIRT && SMP
-       default y
-       help
-         This feature helps to reduce the steal time in paravirtualised
-         environment, thereby reducing vCPU preemption. Reducing vCPU
-         preemption provides improved lock holder preemption and reduces
-         cost of vCPU preemption.
-
-         By default preferred CPUs will be same as active CPUs. Depending
-         on the steal time when steal_monitor driver is enabled,
-         preferred CPUs could become subset of active CPUs.
+       bool


> Enabling some random driver, and even worse overriding user
> preferences looks questionable, at least.
> 
> I'm one of those who build VMs with the localyes config, particularly
> because it decouples me from rootfs headache. So please let me just
> compile-in your monitor, if I want.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-07  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-01 14:16 [PATCH v6 00/23] sched: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask and steal-driven vCPU backoff Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 01/23] sched/docs: Document cpu_preferred_mask and Preferred CPU concept Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 02/23] kconfig: Provide PREFERRED_CPU option Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 03/23] cpumask: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 15:35   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 16:40     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 04/23] sysfs: Add preferred CPU file Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 05/23] sched/core: Try to use a preferred CPU in is_cpu_allowed Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 16:09   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 16:49     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-02  6:30       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 06/23] sched/fair: Load balance only among preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 16:19   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 16:41     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 07/23] sched/fair: Pull the load on preferred CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 08/23] sched/core: Keep tick on non-preferred CPUs until tasks are out Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 09/23] sched/core: Push current task from non preferred CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 16:50   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 17:03     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 10/23] sched/debug: Add migration stats due to non preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 11/23] virt/steal_monitor: Add documentation Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 12/23] virt: Introduce steal monitor driver Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-03 18:20   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-03 18:27     ` Yury Norov
2026-07-06  8:24       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-06 18:49         ` Yury Norov
2026-07-07  6:47           ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2026-07-06  8:09     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 13/23] virt/steal_monitor: Restore to active on module disable Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 14/23] virt/steal_monitor: Define steal_monitor structure Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 15/23] virt/steal_monitor: Add control knobs for handling steal values Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-02  7:16   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 16/23] virt/steal_monitor: Compute work at regular intervals Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-03 18:14   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-06  8:38     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 17/23] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to get systemwide steal time Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-03 19:16   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-06  8:47     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-06 19:04       ` Yury Norov
2026-07-07  6:50         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 18/23] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to inc/dec preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-03 21:11   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-06  9:20     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 19/23] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to get num of CPUs for steal ratio Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-06 19:26   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-07  6:55     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 20/23] virt/steal_monitor: Act on steal values at regular intervals Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-02  7:18   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-06 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-07  7:16     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 21/23] virt/steal_monitor: Add direction control Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-06 20:36   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-07  7:16     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 22/23] virt/steal_monitor: Add design check of preferred subset of active Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 23/23] virt/steal_monitor: Optimise decrease_preferred_cpus when all CPUs are housekeeping Shrikanth Hegde

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