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From: Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	dwmw@amazon.co.uk, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, ardb@kernel.org,
	hpa@zytor.com
Cc: x86@kernel.org, apopple@nvidia.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	nik.borisov@suse.com, kas@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com,
	Michael van der Westhuizen <rmikey@meta.com>,
	Tobias Fleig <tfleig@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/mm: Move _PAGE_BIT_NOPTISHADOW from bit 58 to bit 9
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 00:58:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <797c78f4-1a90-42da-9fed-e87682456a43@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98bc658f-2ec6-43f5-a7e1-e9424450a850@intel.com>



On 23/10/2025 00:35, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 10/22/25 15:06, Usama Arif wrote:
>> Instead, move _PAGE_BIT_NOPTISHADOW to use _PAGE_BIT_SOFTW1 (bit 9),
> 
> Wait a sec, though...
> 
> This isn't necessary once the previous 2 patches are applied, right?

In kexec if the target kernels have patch 1 and 2, then this patch
is not needed. Unfortunately, patches 1 and 2 are not livepatchable.
Also backporting patches 1 and 2 to all previous kernels running in
production in a large fleet is not very scalable.

So if we want to run a kernel with 5 level pagetable in production
(with the ability to kexec into a 4 level kernel that doesn't have the first
2 patches), then this patch would solve the problem. i.e. patches 1 and 2
solve the problem from the target kernels perspective, patch 3 solves
it from the source kernel (if the target kernel doesnt have patches 1
and 2 applied).
I mentioned this in the commit message as:

"
- The logistical challenge of patching all older kernels in production
- The patch not being applicable for live patching
"

I can try and make the commit message clearer in the next revision.
 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-22 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-22 22:06 [PATCH 0/3] x86: Fix kexec 5-level to 4-level paging transition Usama Arif
2025-10-22 22:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/boot: Fix page table access in " Usama Arif
2025-10-22 23:16   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-22 23:49     ` Usama Arif
2025-10-25 21:50     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-23 17:43   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-24  8:07   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-22 22:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] efi/libstub: " Usama Arif
2025-10-23 14:13   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-10-23 14:28     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-22 22:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/mm: Move _PAGE_BIT_NOPTISHADOW from bit 58 to bit 9 Usama Arif
2025-10-22 23:35   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-22 23:58     ` Usama Arif [this message]
2025-10-23 14:05       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-23 14:24         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 15:12           ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-23 15:25             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 22:15             ` Usama Arif
2025-10-22 22:25 ` [PATCH 0/3] x86: Fix kexec 5-level to 4-level paging transition Usama Arif

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