From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] cgroup/bpf: fast path skb BPF filtering
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 13:21:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ca623df-73ed-9191-bec7-a4728f2f95e6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKH8qBuZxBen871AWDK1eDcxJenK7UkSQCZQsHCPhk6nk9e=Ng@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/15/21 22:07, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 11:55 AM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/15/21 19:15, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 10:54 AM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/15/21 18:24, sdf@google.com wrote:
[...]
>>>>> I can probably do more experiments on my side once your patch is
>>>>> accepted. I'm mostly concerned with getsockopt(TCP_ZEROCOPY_RECEIVE).
>>>>> If you claim there is visible overhead for a direct call then there
>>>>> should be visible benefit to using CGROUP_BPF_TYPE_ENABLED there as
>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting, sounds getsockopt might be performance sensitive to
>>>> someone.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, I forgot to mention that for testing tx I'm using io_uring
>>>> (for both zc and not) with good submission batching.
>>>
>>> Yeah, last time I saw 2-3% as well, but it was due to kmalloc, see
>>> more details in 9cacf81f8161, it was pretty visible under perf.
>>> That's why I'm a bit skeptical of your claims of direct calls being
>>> somehow visible in these 2-3% (even skb pulls/pushes are not 2-3%?).
>>
>> migrate_disable/enable together were taking somewhat in-between
>> 1% and 1.5% in profiling, don't remember the exact number. The rest
>> should be from rcu_read_lock/unlock() in BPF_PROG_RUN_ARRAY_CG_FLAGS()
>> and other extra bits on the way.
>
> You probably have a preemptiple kernel and preemptible rcu which most
> likely explains why you see the overhead and I won't (non-preemptible
> kernel in our env, rcu_read_lock is essentially a nop, just a compiler
> barrier).
Right. For reference tried out non-preemptible, perf shows the function
taking 0.8% with a NIC and 1.2% with a dummy netdev.
>> I'm skeptical I'll be able to measure inlining one function,
>> variability between boots/runs is usually greater and would hide it.
>
> Right, that's why I suggested to mirror what we do in set/getsockopt
> instead of the new extra CGROUP_BPF_TYPE_ENABLED. But I'll leave it up
> to you, Martin and the rest.
--
Pavel Begunkov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-16 13:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-15 14:49 [PATCH v3] cgroup/bpf: fast path skb BPF filtering Pavel Begunkov
2021-12-15 16:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-12-15 17:38 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-12-15 16:51 ` sdf
2021-12-15 17:18 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-12-15 17:33 ` sdf
2021-12-15 17:53 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-12-15 18:24 ` sdf
2021-12-15 18:54 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-12-15 19:15 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2021-12-15 19:55 ` Pavel Begunkov
2021-12-15 22:07 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2021-12-16 13:21 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2021-12-16 18:14 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2021-12-16 18:24 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-01-24 15:46 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-01-24 18:25 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-01-25 18:54 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-01-25 21:27 ` Stanislav Fomichev
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