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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	peterz@infradead.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, aruna.ramakrishna@oracle.com, elver@google.com
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] rseq: Make rseq work with protection keys
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 13:45:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7d830f4f-dccb-4055-8539-e97432e178eb@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <470ee918-59fb-4af8-b5c7-93077963b437@efficios.com>

On 2/21/25 13:36, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Because the rseq return to userspace handler is called on every return
>> to userspace after a task is scheduled back after preemption, I am
>> concerned about the overhead that would be added by a WRPKRU on the
>> fast-path, given that it acts as as barrier against speculation. Issuing
>> WRPKRU only after checking that pkey-0 is not accessible appears to be
>> moving the overhead to a much less common case.
> 
> Actually, we should distinguish between two accesses here:
> 
> A) loads/stores from/to struct rseq
> 
> B) loads from struct rseq_cs (only happens on rseq abort)
> 
> (A) is a fast-path executed on return to userspace after a preemption.
> In order to make it fast, we could require that struct rseq is pkey-0
> and typically skip any WRPKRU for this access when pkey-0 is already
> accessible. We can add a check on rseq registration to make sure that
> struct rseq is indeed pkey-0, and reject it with an error if not. This
> should help make the ABI robust and less error-prone.
> 
> Now for (B), it's a slow path. When we observe that rseq->rseq_cs is
> not NULL, we can simply override with a permissive pkey to make sure
> the rseq_cs access will work.
> 
> Thoughts ?
I think this will be the first ABI which is explicitly pkey-0-only. I
suspect there are a few more of these that are implicit but we just
haven't found them yet.

I wouldn't have any objections about doing this, especially given
sanity checking at rseq registration.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-21 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1739790300.git.dvyukov@google.com>
2025-02-17 11:07 ` [PATCH 1/4] pkeys: add API to switch to permissive pkey register Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-17 20:03   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-17 20:08   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-17 20:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-21 17:01   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-24 13:25     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-25 16:15       ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-25 21:56         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-26 10:00           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-26 17:21             ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-27 13:58               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-21 17:37   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-17 11:07 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86/signal: Use switch_to_permissive_pkey_reg() helper Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-21 16:26   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-24 13:13     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-17 11:07 ` [PATCH 3/4] rseq: Make rseq work with protection keys Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-17 20:21   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-18  7:55     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-18 14:57       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-18 15:10         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-18 15:27           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-18 15:37             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-21 11:22               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-21 19:41                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-21 17:17   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-21 19:38     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-21 19:48       ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-21 20:05         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-21 20:50           ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-21 21:11             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-21 21:36               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-21 21:45                 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2025-02-24 13:35                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-21 21:40               ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-17 11:07 ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests/rseq: Add test for rseq+pkeys Dmitry Vyukov
2025-02-17 20:23   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-21 17:24   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-24 13:22     ` Dmitry Vyukov

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