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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Safonov via B4 Relay
	<devnull+0x7f454c46.gmail.com@kernel.org>
Cc: 0x7f454c46@gmail.com, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Ivan Delalande <colona@arista.com>,
	Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>,
	Mat Martineau <martineau@kernel.org>,
	Geliang Tang <geliang@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Davide Caratti <dcaratti@redhat.com>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 mptcp@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2 0/5] Make TCP-MD5-diag slightly less broken
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 09:44:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7fb38122abcbcf28f7af8b9891d0b0852c01f088.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241115160816.09df40eb@kernel.org>

(Sorry, late to the party)

On Fri, 2024-11-15 at 16:08 -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 18:46:39 +0000 Dmitry Safonov via B4 Relay wrote:
> > 2. Inet-diag allocates netlink message for sockets in
> >    inet_diag_dump_one_icsk(), which uses a TCP-diag callback
> >    .idiag_get_aux_size(), that pre-calculates the needed space for
> >    TCP-diag related information. But as neither socket lock nor
> >    rcu_readlock() are held between allocation and the actual TCP
> >    info filling, the TCP-related space requirement may change before
> >    reaching tcp_diag_put_md5sig(). I.e., the number of TCP-MD5 keys on
> >    a socket. Thankfully, TCP-MD5-diag won't overwrite the skb, but will
> >    return EMSGSIZE, triggering WARN_ON() in inet_diag_dump_one_icsk().
> 
> Would it be too ugly if we simply retried with a 32kB skb if the initial
> dump failed with EMSGSIZE?

We have min_dump_alloc, which a number of places are setting much higher
than the default, partially at least because there were similar issues,
e.g. in nl80211. See e.g. nl80211_dump_wiphy() doing it dynamically.

Kind of ugly? Sure! And we shouldn't use it now with newer userspace
that knows to request a more finely split dump. For older userspace it's
the only way though.

Also, we don't even give all the data to older userspace (it must
support split dumps to get information about the more modern features, 6
GHz channels, etc.), but I gather that's not an option here.

> Another option would be to automatically grow the skb. The size
> accounting is an endless source of bugs. We'd just need to scan
> the codebase to make sure there are no cases where someone does
> 
> 	ptr = __nla_reserve();
> 	nla_put();
> 	*ptr = 0;
> 
> Which may be too much of a project and source of bugs in itself.
> 
> Or do both, retry as a fix, and auto-grow in net-next.

For auto-grow you'd also have to have information about the userspace
buffer, I think? It still has to fit there, might as well fail anyway if
that buffer is too small? I'm not sure we have that link back? But I'm
not really sure right now, just remember this as an additional wrinkle
from the above-mentioned nl80211 problem.

johannes

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-20  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-13 18:46 [PATCH net v2 0/5] Make TCP-MD5-diag slightly less broken Dmitry Safonov via B4 Relay
2024-11-13 18:46 ` [PATCH net v2 1/5] net/diag: Do not race on dumping MD5 keys with adding new MD5 keys Dmitry Safonov via B4 Relay
2024-11-13 18:46 ` [PATCH net v2 2/5] net/diag: Warn only once on EMSGSIZE Dmitry Safonov via B4 Relay
2024-11-13 18:46 ` [PATCH net v2 3/5] net/diag: Pre-allocate optional info only if requested Dmitry Safonov via B4 Relay
2024-11-13 18:46 ` [PATCH net v2 4/5] net/diag: Always pre-allocate tcp_ulp info Dmitry Safonov via B4 Relay
2024-11-13 18:46 ` [PATCH net v2 5/5] net/netlink: Correct the comment on netlink message max cap Dmitry Safonov via B4 Relay
2024-11-16  0:13   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-16  0:08 ` [PATCH net v2 0/5] Make TCP-MD5-diag slightly less broken Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-16  0:48   ` Dmitry Safonov
2024-11-16  1:58     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-16  3:52       ` Dmitry Safonov
2024-11-19  0:12         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-20  0:19           ` Dmitry Safonov
2024-11-20  8:44   ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2024-11-16  0:20 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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