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From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?)
Date: 05 Nov 2000 15:03:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7pHdSsmmw-B@khms.westfalen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001104222835.A27549@munchkin.spectacle-pond.org>
In-Reply-To: <7pChupdXw-B@khms.westfalen.de> <3A01B8BB.A17FE178@Rikers.org> <20001102212124.A15054@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <7pChupdXw-B@khms.westfalen.de> <20001104222835.A27549@munchkin.spectacle-pond.org>

meissner@spectacle-pond.org (Michael Meissner)  wrote on 04.11.00 in <20001104222835.A27549@munchkin.spectacle-pond.org>:

> On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 02:24:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote:
> > ak@suse.de (Andi Kleen)  wrote on 02.11.00 in
> > <20001102212124.A15054@gruyere.muc.suse.de>:
> >
> > > again with a different syntax than gcc [I guess it would have been too
> > > easy to just use the gcc syntax]
> >
> > One of the big problems in C99 was that there was nobody on the committee
> > who really understood gcc well, so the committee had problems using gcc
> > solutions given that nobody would be able to really describe them.
>
> Or the GCC syntax was too limited to do all of what the committee wanted.

Well, what I wrote was a paraphrase from what committee members said in  
comp.std.c.

> > And the reason no such expert was there was that the FSF didn't send
> > anyone, because they seem to think standards tend to ignore what they want
> > to do.
>
> Actually, RMS had quite a lot of influence on the original standard, even
> though he didn't attend the meetings.  His replies to the public comment
> period were fairly long and real insightful.  Even if some of his issues
> were voted down, they were discussed over quite a few meetings.

And what I wrote here was another paraphrase - from memory - of what a gcc  
guy said on the same group.

Deja will show the context, in case that's not beyond its current event  
horizon.

MfG Kai
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-05 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-01 22:40 Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10 ? J . A . Magallon
2000-11-01 22:53 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02  1:12   ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02  2:47     ` J . A . Magallon
2000-11-02  3:26       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02 11:40         ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01 22:57 ` Kurt Garloff
2000-11-01 22:47   ` David S. Miller
2000-11-01 22:45     ` Gérard Roudier
2000-11-01 23:07     ` Ben Pfaff
2000-11-01 23:12       ` David S. Miller
2000-11-01 23:11     ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01 23:15       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-01 23:21     ` Tom Rini
2000-11-01 23:30       ` Alan Cox
2000-11-01 23:36         ` Tom Rini
2000-11-02  0:22         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02  4:50           ` Mike Galbraith
2000-11-02  4:59             ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-01 23:37     ` Nathan Paul Simons
2000-11-01 23:29       ` David S. Miller
2000-11-01 23:54         ` Cort Dougan
2000-11-01 23:45           ` David S. Miller
2000-11-02  0:00             ` Cort Dougan
2000-11-02  0:54               ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02  0:21             ` Nathan Paul Simons
2000-11-02  0:11               ` David S. Miller
2000-11-02  0:32                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-02  0:59                   ` Bill Nottingham
2000-11-02 18:55                   ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Tim Riker
2000-11-02 19:07                     ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02 19:07                       ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 19:24                         ` Ben Ford
2000-11-02 19:31                           ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 20:37                             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-02 20:53                               ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 21:06                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2000-11-02 21:21                                   ` non-gcc linux? Tim Riker
2000-11-04 11:30                                   ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Kai Henningsen
2000-11-02 22:46                                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-02 23:16                                   ` Tim Riker
2000-11-03 12:02                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2000-11-02 20:53                         ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02 21:04                           ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 21:17                             ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02 21:23                               ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-02 21:27                                 ` non-gcc linux? Tim Riker
2000-11-02 21:41                                   ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-02 21:43                                     ` Tim Riker
2000-11-03  7:21                                   ` Gábor Lénárt
2000-11-04 11:39                                     ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-04 11:37                               ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Kai Henningsen
2000-11-07 16:33                         ` Jes Sorensen
2000-11-07 20:52                           ` Tim Riker
2000-11-07 21:06                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-07 22:08                               ` David Lang
2000-11-07 21:36                                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-11-08  0:04                             ` yodaiken
2000-11-02 19:18                       ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-02 19:17                         ` non-gcc linux? Tim Riker
2000-11-02 19:52                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-02 20:00                             ` Tim Riker
2000-11-02 20:29                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-02 22:23                               ` D. Hugh Redelmeier
2000-11-02 22:31                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 22:02                                   ` D. Hugh Redelmeier
2000-11-04  5:34                         ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Aaron Sethman
2000-11-04  9:18                           ` non-gcc linux? Tim Riker
2000-11-04 10:58                             ` Alan Cox
2000-11-05 20:52                               ` Tim Riker
2000-11-05 21:06                                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2000-11-05 21:18                                   ` Tim Riker
2000-11-05 22:42                                   ` Marc Lehmann
2000-11-05 23:05                                     ` Tim Riker
2000-11-06  0:05                                       ` Marc Lehmann
2000-11-06  8:53                                       ` Thomas Pornin
2000-11-05 23:26                                     ` Ion Badulescu
2000-11-06  6:34                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-05 22:46                                   ` Alan Cox
2000-11-05 22:45                                 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-05 22:52                                   ` Tim Riker
2000-11-04 12:20                             ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-06 17:14                           ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Ralf Baechle
2000-11-02 20:21                     ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-02 20:27                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2000-11-04 12:24                       ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-05  3:28                         ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-05 13:03                           ` Kai Henningsen [this message]
2000-11-03 11:33                     ` Thomas Pornin
2000-11-04 11:19                     ` Kai Henningsen
2000-11-02  2:42             ` Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10 ? Marc Lehmann
2000-11-02 21:24             ` Gérard Roudier
2000-11-02 22:37               ` David S. Miller
2000-11-02  6:28           ` Jakub Jelinek
2000-11-02  0:11         ` Nathan Paul Simons
2000-11-02  0:06           ` David S. Miller
2000-11-02  0:22           ` Tom Rini
2000-11-02  0:26           ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02  0:56           ` Alan Cox
2000-11-02  0:17     ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-11-02  0:30       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-02  1:01         ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-11-01 23:04   ` George
2000-11-02  1:08     ` Jan Dvorak
2000-11-01 23:12   ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <fa.g3i0smv.15loso7@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.cjn9ksv.1a0m82t@ifi.uio.no>
2000-11-04  6:19   ` non-gcc linux? (was Re: Where did kgcc go in 2.4.0-test10?) Russ Allbery
2000-11-04  8:40     ` Michael Meissner
2000-11-04  8:44       ` Russ Allbery
2000-11-06 12:06       ` Horst von Brand

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