From: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Cc: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>, Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, <x86@kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <fustini@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] fs/resctrl: Generic schema description
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:09:19 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8255113f-082a-421b-a8ac-dc93a7b64e10@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aV6Ba/hboKcJjyhY@e133380.arm.com>
Hi Dave,
On 1/7/2026 11:53 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Dec 26, 2025 at 06:38:52PM +0800, Chen, Yu C wrote:
[snip]
>
>>> │ ├── tolerance
>>> │ ├── type
>>> │ └── unit
>>> └── SMBA_NODE
>>> ├── max
>>> ├── min
>>> ├── resolution
>>> ├── scale
>>> ├── scope <== contains "NODE"
>>
>> Would it be more user-friendly to explicitly show "node0, node1, ..."
>> rather than "NODE"? After all, we can already infer the "NODE" type from
>> the schemata name "SMBA_NODE".
>
> I think that having an explicit declaration of the scope is probably
> useful even for things that are included in the schema name.
>
> Part of the reason for describing the schema explicitly is because
> inferring everything from the name does not feel scalable as we add
> more different schemata and resource types.
>
OK, this makes sense.
> Having said that, the schema names should still provide a good clue as
> to what the schema represents.
>
>
> I'm not sure that we should simply list possible domain IDs here:
>
> For MPAM, the domain IDs can be huge, random-looking numbers that do
> not necessarily start from 0 (as currently implemented in the MPAM
> driver).
>
> In any case, we need not just names for the individual domain IDs, but
> an idea of what they represent.
>
>
> Maybe we could stick with opaque "scope" names as in Reinette's
> proposal, and solve the problem of enumating the domain IDs separately.
>
>
> For the commonly-used scopes, we probably don't need to bother, since
> the enumeration is available elsewhere:
>
> * for NUMA nodes and cache IDs, /sys/devices/system/node/node*
> (or /sys/devices/system/node/possible) ?
>
> * for cache IDs at level <n>, the set of values present in all the
> files /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cache/index<n>/id ?
>
Previously, the node list display was proposed mainly to build a
connection between regions and nodes. If we know the node ID, we can
check the detailed information of that node via sysfs (such as
/sys/devices/system/node/node*).
But I agree that keeping the "scope" simple and displaying the
connection somewhere else is reasonable.
>>
>>> │ └── mbm_total_bytes
>>> └── mon_NODE_01 <== monitoring data at scope NODE
>>> └── mbm_total_bytes
>>>
>>
>> Please let me take this chance to elaborate on region-aware RDT
>> in more detail. I am wondering if the interface could be further
>> extended to support this feature.
>>
[snip]
>> Users could query the exact definition of REGION1
>> by checking the info directory.
>>
>> info
>> └── MB
>> └── resource_schemata
>> ├── MB_REGION1_OPT
>> │ ├── max
>> │ ├── min
>> │ ├── resolution
>> │ ├── scale
>> │ ├── scope <== "0=node2;1=node3" (node2 on S0, node3 on S1)
>> │ ├── tolerance
>> │ ├── type
>> │ └── unit
>>
>>
>
> Hmmm, that's interesting.
>
> If there is a grouping on NUMA nodes, is that advertised anywhere in
> sysfs already?
>
> Ideally, there would already be a definition of what "region 0" is in
> terms of the NUMA topology, and we could just refer to it.
>
We have a sysfs interface exposed in /sys/firmware/acpi/memory_ranges/;
each entry represents a physical address range with local or remote region
IDs. I think we can build based on this interface.
thanks,
Chenyu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-09 16:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-24 11:12 [RFC] fs/resctrl: Generic schema description Dave Martin
2025-10-28 23:17 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-30 16:36 ` Dave Martin
2025-11-04 22:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-11-06 17:45 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-11-10 12:37 ` Ben Horgan
2025-12-16 22:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-12-26 10:38 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-01-07 15:53 ` Dave Martin
2026-01-09 16:09 ` Chen, Yu C [this message]
2026-01-24 18:09 ` Drew Fustini
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