From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, Jason@zx2c4.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET 0/2] Fix splice from random/urandom
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 13:55:26 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83183894-155a-efe7-ea0d-a3d88ebeadb1@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220519194838.GA6361@lst.de>
On 5/19/22 1:48 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 01:31:31PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We recently had a failure on a kernel upgrade because splice no longer
>> works on random/urandom. This is due to:
>>
>> 6e2c7421f02 ("fs: don't allow splice read/write without explicit ops")
>>
>> which already has more than two handful of Fixes registered to its
>> name...
>
> Yes. It was a hard break to get rid of set_fs and it's abuse.
I'm a bit torn on this one, because I _really_ want us to get rid of
read/write and make everything use read_iter/write_iter. Firstly because
it's really stupid to have two interfaces, and secondly because even
basic things like "can we block here" doesn't work in the older
interface without fiddling with file flags which is a non-starter for
certain things.
However, it's also problematic that we end up breaking real applications
because of this change. Arguably we should've converted existing
read/write first and avoid this grey zone we are in now (best solution),
or provided splice read/write helpers that work with the non-iter based
read/write handlers.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-19 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-19 19:31 [PATCHSET 0/2] Fix splice from random/urandom Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 19:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] random: convert to using fops->read_iter() Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:20 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:21 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:21 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:21 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 19:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] random: wire up fops->splice_read_iter() Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 19:48 ` [PATCHSET 0/2] Fix splice from random/urandom Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-19 19:55 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2022-05-20 6:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-20 12:51 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 20:05 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 20:49 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 21:02 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:15 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:22 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:25 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:33 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:44 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:13 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:19 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:23 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:25 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-19 23:27 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-19 23:57 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 0:00 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 0:02 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 0:48 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 0:56 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 1:00 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 1:05 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 1:10 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 12:43 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-20 12:49 ` Jens Axboe
2022-05-20 13:04 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
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