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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"ackerleytng@google.com" <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"michael.roth@amd.com" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 12/18] KVM: TDX: Bug the VM if extended the initial measurement fails
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 18:16:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8445ac8c96706ba1f079f4012584ef7631c60c8b.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLFiPq1smdzN3Ary@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Fri, 2025-08-29 at 16:18 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Note, MR.EXTEND can fail if the S-EPT mapping is somehow removed
> > +	 * between mapping the pfn and now, but slots_lock prevents memslot
> > +	 * updates, filemap_invalidate_lock() prevents guest_memfd updates,
> > +	 * mmu_notifier events can't reach S-EPT entries, and KVM's
> > internal
> > +	 * zapping flows are mutually exclusive with S-EPT mappings.
> > +	 */
> > +	for (i = 0; i < PAGE_SIZE; i += TDX_EXTENDMR_CHUNKSIZE) {
> > +		err = tdh_mr_extend(&kvm_tdx->td, gpa + i, &entry,
> > &level_state);
> > +		if (KVM_BUG_ON(err, kvm)) {
> I suspect tdh_mr_extend() running on one vCPU may contend with
> tdh_vp_create()/tdh_vp_addcx()/tdh_vp_init*()/tdh_vp_rd()/tdh_vp_wr()/
> tdh_mng_rd()/tdh_vp_flush() on other vCPUs, if userspace invokes ioctl
> KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION on one vCPU while initializing other vCPUs.
> 
> It's similar to the analysis of contention of tdh_mem_page_add() [1], as
> both tdh_mr_extend() and tdh_mem_page_add() acquire exclusive lock on
> resource TDR.
> 
> I'll try to write a test to verify it and come back to you.

I'm seeing the same thing in the TDX module. It could fail because of contention
controllable from userspace. So the KVM_BUG_ON() is not appropriate.

Today though if tdh_mr_extend() fails because of contention then the TD is
essentially dead anyway. Trying to redo KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION will fail. The
M-EPT fault could be spurious but the second tdh_mem_page_add() would return an
error and never get back to the tdh_mr_extend().

The version in this patch can't recover for a different reason. That is 
kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() doesn't handle spurious faults, so I'd say just
drop the KVM_BUG_ON(), and try to handle the contention in a separate effort.

I guess the two approaches could be to make KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION more robust,
or prevent the contention. For the latter case:
tdh_vp_create()/tdh_vp_addcx()/tdh_vp_init*()/tdh_vp_rd()/tdh_vp_wr()
...I think we could just take slots_lock during KVM_TDX_INIT_VCPU and
KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID.

For tdh_vp_flush() the vcpu_load() in kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl() could be hard to
handle.

So I'd think maybe to look towards making KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION more robust,
which would mean the eventual solution wouldn't have ABI concerns by later
blocking things that used to be allowed.

Maybe having kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() return success for spurious faults is
enough. But this is all for a case that userspace isn't expected to actually
hit, so seems like something that could be kicked down the road easily.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-29 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-29  0:06 [RFC PATCH v2 00/18] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/18] KVM: TDX: Drop PROVE_MMU=y sanity check on to-be-populated mappings Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  6:20   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Add dedicated API to map guest_memfd pfn into TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 18:34   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29 20:27     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] Revert "KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU" Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 19:00   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Rename kvm_tdp_map_page() to kvm_tdp_page_prefault() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 19:03   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] KVM: TDX: Drop superfluous page pinning in S-EPT management Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  8:36   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29 19:53   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29 20:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 21:54       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29 22:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 22:17           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29 22:58             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 22:59               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-01  1:25     ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-02 17:33       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 18:55         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-04  8:45           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/18] KVM: TDX: Return -EIO, not -EINVAL, on a KVM_BUG_ON() condition Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  9:40   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29 16:58   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-29 19:59   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/18] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_sept_drop_private_spte() into tdx_sept_remove_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  9:49   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Drop the return code from kvm_x86_ops.remove_external_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  9:52   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/18] KVM: TDX: Avoid a double-KVM_BUG_ON() in tdx_sept_zap_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  9:52   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/18] KVM: TDX: Use atomic64_dec_return() instead of a poor equivalent Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 10:06   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/18] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 22:46   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/18] KVM: TDX: Bug the VM if extended the initial measurement fails Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  8:18   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-29 18:16     ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-08-29 20:11       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 22:39         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29 23:15           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29 23:18             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02  9:24         ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-02 17:04           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-03  0:18             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-03  3:34               ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-03  9:19                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/18] KVM: TDX: ADD pages to the TD image while populating mirror EPT entries Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29 23:42   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-02 17:09     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/18] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_sept_zap_private_spte() into tdx_sept_remove_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 17:31   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/18] KVM: TDX: Combine KVM_BUG_ON + pr_tdx_error() into TDX_BUG_ON() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  9:03   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29 14:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-01  1:46       ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-02 18:55   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/18] KVM: TDX: Derive error argument names from the local variable names Sean Christopherson
2025-08-30  0:00   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] KVM: TDX: Assert that mmu_lock is held for write when removing S-EPT entries Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  0:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/18] KVM: TDX: Add macro to retry SEAMCALLs when forcing vCPUs out of guest Sean Christopherson

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