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From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?
Date: 13 Jul 2001 08:50:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84ocY8IHw-B@khms.westfalen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B4D7685.9AC1DED@idb.hist.no>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107112310590.962-100000@fogarty.jakma.org> <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0107111913010.9899-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> <84jaVrwXw-B@khms.westfalen.de> <3B4D7685.9AC1DED@idb.hist.no>

helgehaf@idb.hist.no (Helge Hafting)  wrote on 12.07.01 in <3B4D7685.9AC1DED@idb.hist.no>:

> Kai Henningsen wrote:
>
> > What I'd *really* like (but don't see how to get there) would be a "save
> > system state, shutdown, change kernel and/or hardware, reboot, restore
> > state" system (where state is like "I'm logged in on this console, in this
> > current directory, and under X I have Netscape running and this page
> > displayed" but I don't care about the exact state of Squid or even if my
> > ISDN line is dialled in, because those "fix themselves").
>
> Consider os/2 then.  All workplace-shell aware programs is supposed to
> save
> state in this way.

The keyword is "supposed". Because I remember from my OS/2 days that most  
didn't.

OTOH, Borland's DOS IDE does. It's a mixed bag.

>  And yes - they do start up in the same state after
> reboot if you want to.  Editors come up on the page you left, filesystem
> folders comes up, and so on.

Most programs from IBM got it right, most others didn't, as far as I can  
recall.

> > and then every user-visible non-transient program
> > needs to implement it - and I don't see *that* happen in the next ten
> > years.
>
> Consider a patch for konqueror or a few other webpage/fs-view programs
> and you'll go a long way - all in userspace.

Well, Netscape *can* sort of do it (for one window).

But how do I make it happen for bash? login? xdm? Amd so on ... anyway, I  
simply don't have the time for such a project. I'm spread too thin as it  
is.

MfG Kai

  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-13  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <NOEJJDACGOHCKNCOGFOMOEKECGAA.davids@webmaster.com>
2001-07-10 20:43 ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? C. Slater
2001-07-11  3:50   ` FORT David
2001-07-11  9:10   ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 15:41     ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 18:11       ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? [MOSIX] Carlos O'Donell Jr.
2001-07-12 10:16       ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Helge Hafting
2001-07-11 22:12     ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-11 22:14       ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` C. Slater
2001-07-11 23:44           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-12  1:17             ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 15:39               ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12 16:23                 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-12 17:37                   ` Mike Borrelli
2001-07-12 18:05                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-13 10:07                     ` Pau Aliagas
2001-07-12 18:48                   ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-12 10:12             ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12 15:32           ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-11 22:36         ` David Schwartz
2001-07-12  7:23         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-07-12 10:05           ` Helge Hafting
2001-07-13  6:50             ` Kai Henningsen [this message]
2001-07-12 17:58           ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-12 23:24           ` swsusp again [was Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting?] Pavel Machek
2001-07-13 21:08             ` Alan Cox
2001-07-11 22:46       ` Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Kip Macy
2001-07-11 23:02         ` Rik van Riel
2001-07-12  0:31         ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12  1:10           ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-11 23:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-12  7:23       ` Ville Herva
2001-07-13  1:11 tas
2001-07-13  3:45 ` Ian Stirling
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-12 15:32 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:23 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:55 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-07-12  4:48 Frank Davis
2001-07-12  5:08 ` John Alvord
2001-07-13  9:10   ` Chuck Hemker
2001-07-12  1:03 Torrey Hoffman
2001-07-12  1:24 ` C. Slater
2001-07-12 10:07   ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 12:11     ` Ian Stirling
2001-07-12 12:54       ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-12 14:15         ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-07-12 23:17   ` Pavel Machek
2001-07-12 20:47 ` Wilfried Weissmann
     [not found] <994895240.21189@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-07-12  0:10 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-07-11  9:52 David Balazic
2001-07-11 10:08 ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-07-11 19:12   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-11 15:19 ` C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:42 C. Slater
2001-07-10 18:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-10 21:11 ` Jesper Juhl

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