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From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen)
To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Cc: linux-admin@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ORBS blacklist is BROKEN (deliberately)...
Date: 15 Jul 2001 13:24:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84uhVUkXw-B@khms.westfalen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15LOMk-00018x-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E15LOMk-00018x-00@the-village.bc.nu>

alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)  wrote on 14.07.01 in <E15LOMk-00018x-00@the-village.bc.nu>:

> > http://www.e-scrub.com/orbs/ is the key.  "Ronald F. Guilmette"
> > <rfg@monkeys.com> sent this message to spam lists.  Anybody still using
> > ORBS for lookups can expect to get random mail bounces.
>
> Yeah he's decided to solve his load problem by committing an act of criminal
> fraud, computer misuse and a few other violations

What are you smoking?

The DNS requests are happening against his express wishes, so if anything,  
the *requests* are computer misuse. Alan's NS entries pointing people  
there definitely are.

It's not Ronald who's telling people his server is authoritative; in fact,  
he's doing just the opposite, loudly.

> > Because of the way Alan disabled the former ORBS list zones, my name
> > server is now shouldering (at least) 1/11th of the total world-wide
>
> [I think he means the way the courts did..]

I don't. He's talking about technical changes, not about legal reasons.

> And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
> about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would

How about starting a true free project, with charter and/or licensing that  
makes it impossible to go non-free? Something that's controlled by more  
than one person, and which is explicit about what exactly the rules are,  
and which part of those rules are responsible for particular entry.

MfG Kai

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-15 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-14  8:55 ORBS blacklist is BROKEN (deliberately) Matti Aarnio
2001-07-14  9:12 ` Keith Owens
2001-07-14 12:17   ` Alan Cox
2001-07-14 22:33     ` David Ford
2001-07-15 11:24     ` Kai Henningsen [this message]
2001-07-15 12:49       ` Keith Owens
2001-07-15 18:07     ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-07-15 19:25       ` Glynn Clements
2001-07-15 19:44         ` Alan Cox
2001-07-15 20:06           ` Glynn Clements
     [not found]   ` <9ipdh9$114$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>
2001-07-14 15:57     ` Colonel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-15  1:39 Wayne.Brown

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