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From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>,
	Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
Cc: Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@chromium.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Pawel Osciak <posciak@chromium.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.com>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [RFCv4,19/21] media: vim2m: add request support
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:21:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85a6fdc4-e01c-c6e4-d027-dea161e5b90e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5BwXURe=6-Wu5MV1ak=JWrMa5Kw71HPA2i_g-3OGqYwxg@mail.gmail.com>

On 12.03.2018 11:29, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Paul Kocialkowski
> <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 17:15 +0900, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>> Hi Paul, Dmitry,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Paul Kocialkowski
>>> <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2018-03-11 at 22:42 +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07.03.2018 19:37, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First off, I'd like to take the occasion to say thank-you for
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>> This is a major piece of plumbing that is required for me to add
>>>>>> support
>>>>>> for the Allwinner CedarX VPU hardware in upstream Linux. Other
>>>>>> drivers,
>>>>>> such as tegra-vde (that was recently merged in staging) are also
>>>>>> badly
>>>>>> in need of this API.
>>>>>
>>>>> Certainly it would be good to have a common UAPI. Yet I haven't
>>>>> got my
>>>>> hands on
>>>>> trying to implement the V4L interface for the tegra-vde driver,
>>>>> but
>>>>> I've taken a
>>>>> look at Cedrus driver and for now I've one question:
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be possible (or maybe already is) to have a single IOCTL
>>>>> that
>>>>> takes input/output buffers with codec parameters, processes the
>>>>> request(s) and returns to userspace when everything is done?
>>>>> Having 5
>>>>> context switches for a single frame decode (like Cedrus VAAPI
>>>>> driver
>>>>> does) looks like a bit of overhead.
>>>>
>>>> The V4L2 interface exposes ioctls for differents actions and I don't
>>>> think there's a combined ioctl for this. The request API was
>>>> introduced
>>>> precisely because we need to have consistency between the various
>>>> ioctls
>>>> needed for each frame. Maybe one single (atomic) ioctl would have
>>>> worked
>>>> too, but that's apparently not how the V4L2 API was designed.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think there is any particular overhead caused by having n
>>>> ioctls
>>>> instead of a single one. At least that would be very surprising
>>>> IMHO.
>>>
>>> Well, there is small syscall overhead, which normally shouldn't be
>>> very painful, although with all the speculative execution hardening,
>>> can't be sure of anything anymore. :)
>>
>> Oh, my mistake then, I had it in mind that it is not really something
>> noticeable. Hopefully, it won't be a limiting factor in our cases.
> 
> With typical frame rates achievable by hardware codecs, I doubt that
> it would be a limiting factor. We're using a similar API (a WiP
> version of pre-Request API prototype from long ago) in Chrome OS
> already without any performance issues.

Thank you very much for the answers!

The syscalls overhead is miserable in comparison to the rest of decoding, though
I wanted to clarify whether there is a way to avoid it. Atomic API sounds like
something that would suit well for that.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-12 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-20  4:44 [RFCv4 00/21] Request API Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 01/21] media: add request API core and UAPI Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20 10:36   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-21  6:01     ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-21  7:29       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-22  9:30         ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-22  9:38           ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 02/21] v4l2-ctrls: v4l2_ctrl_add_handler: add from_other_dev Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 03/21] v4l2-ctrls: prepare internal structs for request API Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 04/21] v4l2-ctrls: add core " Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 05/21] v4l2-ctrls: use ref in helper instead of ctrl Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 06/21] v4l2-ctrls: support g/s_ext_ctrls for requests Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 07/21] v4l2-ctrls: add v4l2_ctrl_request_setup Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 08/21] [WAR] v4l2-ctrls: do not clone non-standard controls Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20 13:05   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 09/21] v4l2: add request API support Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  7:36   ` Philippe Ombredanne
2018-02-20  8:03     ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20 13:25   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-21  6:01     ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 10/21] videodev2.h: Add request_fd field to v4l2_buffer Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20 15:20   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-21  6:01     ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 11/21] media: v4l2_fh: add request entity field Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20 15:24   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-21  6:01     ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 12/21] media: videobuf2: add support for requests Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 13/21] media: videobuf2-v4l2: " Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20 16:18   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-21  6:01     ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-23  6:34     ` Tomasz Figa
2018-02-23  7:21       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-23  7:33         ` Tomasz Figa
2018-02-23  7:43           ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-07 16:50   ` [RFCv4,13/21] " Paul Kocialkowski
2018-03-08 13:50     ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 14/21] videodev2.h: add request_fd field to v4l2_ext_controls Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 15/21] v4l2-ctrls: support requests in EXT_CTRLS ioctls Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 16/21] v4l2: video_device: support for creating requests Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20 16:35   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-21  6:01     ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-21  7:37       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 17/21] media: mem2mem: support for requests Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 18/21] Documentation: v4l: document request API Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 19/21] media: vim2m: add request support Alexandre Courbot
2018-03-07 16:37   ` [RFCv4,19/21] " Paul Kocialkowski
2018-03-08 13:48     ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-03-09 14:35       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-03-13 10:24         ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-03-14 13:25           ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-03-19  9:17             ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-03-11 19:40     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2018-03-11 19:42     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2018-03-12  8:10       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-03-12  8:15         ` Tomasz Figa
2018-03-12  8:25           ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-03-12  8:29             ` Tomasz Figa
2018-03-12 12:21               ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
2018-03-12 12:32           ` Alexandre Courbot
2018-03-12 14:44             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 20/21] media: vivid: add request support for the video capture device Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:44 ` [RFCv4 21/21] [WIP] media: media-device: support for creating requests Alexandre Courbot
2018-02-20  4:54 ` [RFCv4 00/21] Request API Alexandre Courbot

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