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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
Cc: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
	Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
	Alper Gun <alpergun@google.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Emi Kisanuki <fj0570is@fujitsu.com>,
	Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 06/46] arm64: RMI: Define the user ABI
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2026 09:39:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86342575ev.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd6f4715-e8be-41d1-af60-00f068e9d730@arm.com>

On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 09:28:16 +0000,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> On 11/03/2026 19:10, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Mon, 02 Mar 2026 15:23:44 +0000,
> > Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>>> +  struct kvm_arm_rmi_populate {
> >>>> +	__u64 base;
> >>>> +	__u64 size;
> >>>> +	__u64 source_uaddr;
> >>>> +	__u32 flags;
> >>>> +	__u32 reserved;
> >>>> +  };
> >>>> +
> >>>> +Populate a region of protected address space by copying the data from the user
> >>>> +space pointer provided. This is only valid before any VCPUs have been run.
> >>>> +The ioctl might not populate the entire region and user space may have to
> >>>> +repeatedly call it (with updated pointers) to populate the entire region.
> >>> 
> >>> size as a __u64 is odd, as the return value from the ioctl is a signed
> >>> int. This implies that you can't really report how many bytes you have
> >>> copied.  Some form of consistency wouldn't hurt.
> >> 
> >> Good spot. In practice this works because >2GB in one operation is
> >> highly unlikely to be processed in one go. But I guess I'll change this
> >> to have an output size argument. I guess I could make the kernel update
> >> all of base,size,source_uaddr which would simplify user space.
> > 
> > In a conversation with Suzuki, I suggested that splice(2) could be a
> > nicer way to express this, and allow asynchronous use with io-uring.
> > 
> > After all, having a guestmem backend for CCA is not exactly
> > outlandish, and having a splice implementation realistic enough.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> One issue that I realised, is about the "flags" for the populate.
> Data can be loaded as measured vs unmeasured in CCA (and in TDX
> and SNP). I don't see a way to convey this with splice.

Surely that should me a property of the memory region, and not the way
it is copied, right?

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-12  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-17 10:10 [PATCH v12 00/46] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 01/46] kvm: arm64: Include kvm_emulate.h in kvm/arm_psci.h Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 02/46] arm64: RME: Handle Granule Protection Faults (GPFs) Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 03/46] arm64: RMI: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 04/46] arm64: RMI: Add wrappers for RMI calls Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 05/46] arm64: RMI: Check for RMI support at KVM init Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 06/46] arm64: RMI: Define the user ABI Steven Price
2026-01-23 16:47   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-01-26  9:37     ` Steven Price
2026-03-02 14:25   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-02 15:23     ` Steven Price
2026-03-02 17:13       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-03 13:13         ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-03 14:23           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-03 14:37             ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-03 16:02               ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-03 13:11       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-04 12:08         ` Steven Price
2026-03-11 19:10       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-12  9:28         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-12  9:39           ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2026-03-12 10:45             ` Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 07/46] arm64: RMI: Basic infrastructure for creating a realm Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 08/46] kvm: arm64: Don't expose unsupported capabilities for realm guests Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 09/46] KVM: arm64: Allow passing machine type in KVM creation Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 10/46] arm64: RMI: RTT tear down Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 11/46] arm64: RMI: Activate realm on first VCPU run Steven Price
2025-12-17 14:29   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-02 14:40   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-02 16:31     ` Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 12/46] arm64: RMI: Allocate/free RECs to match vCPUs Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 13/46] KVM: arm64: vgic: Provide helper for number of list registers Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 14/46] arm64: RMI: Support for the VGIC in realms Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 15/46] KVM: arm64: Support timers in realm RECs Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 16/46] arm64: RMI: Handle realm enter/exit Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 17/46] arm64: RMI: Handle RMI_EXIT_RIPAS_CHANGE Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 18/46] KVM: arm64: Handle realm MMIO emulation Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 19/46] KVM: arm64: Expose support for private memory Steven Price
2025-12-20 13:46   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-20 13:59   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-20 14:18   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 20/46] arm64: RMI: Allow populating initial contents Steven Price
2025-12-20 14:34   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-02 14:56   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-02 16:46     ` Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 21/46] arm64: RMI: Set RIPAS of initial memslots Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:10 ` [PATCH v12 22/46] arm64: RMI: Create the realm descriptor Steven Price
2026-01-23 18:57   ` Alper Gun
2026-01-26  9:50     ` Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 23/46] arm64: RMI: Add a VMID allocator for realms Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 24/46] arm64: RMI: Runtime faulting of memory Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 25/46] KVM: arm64: Handle realm VCPU load Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 26/46] KVM: arm64: Validate register access for a Realm VM Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 27/46] KVM: arm64: Handle Realm PSCI requests Steven Price
2026-03-02 16:39   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-03  9:26     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-03 13:04       ` Marc Zyngier
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 28/46] KVM: arm64: WARN on injected undef exceptions Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 29/46] arm64: Don't expose stolen time for realm guests Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 30/46] arm64: RMI: allow userspace to inject aborts Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 31/46] arm64: RMI: support RSI_HOST_CALL Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 32/46] arm64: RMI: Allow checking SVE on VM instance Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 33/46] arm64: RMI: Always use 4k pages for realms Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 34/46] arm64: RMI: Prevent Device mappings for Realms Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 35/46] HACK: Restore per-CPU cpu_armpmu pointer Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 36/46] arm_pmu: Provide a mechanism for disabling the physical IRQ Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 37/46] arm64: RMI: Enable PMU support with a realm guest Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 38/46] arm64: RMI: Propagate number of breakpoints and watchpoints to userspace Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 39/46] arm64: RMI: Set breakpoint parameters through SET_ONE_REG Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 40/46] arm64: RMI: Initialize PMCR.N with number counter supported by RMM Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 41/46] arm64: RMI: Propagate max SVE vector length from RMM Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 42/46] arm64: RMI: Configure max SVE vector length for a Realm Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 43/46] arm64: RMI: Provide register list for unfinalized RMI RECs Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 44/46] arm64: RMI: Provide accurate register list Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 45/46] KVM: arm64: Expose KVM_ARM_VCPU_REC to user space Steven Price
2025-12-17 10:11 ` [PATCH v12 46/46] arm64: RMI: Enable realms to be created Steven Price
2025-12-17 14:55 ` [PATCH v12 00/46] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Marc Zyngier
2025-12-17 15:28   ` Steven Price
2026-02-12 17:48 ` Mathieu Poirier
2026-02-16 12:33   ` Steven Price
2026-02-16 14:27     ` Steven Price
2026-02-17 17:47       ` Mathieu Poirier

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