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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>
Cc: "Brian Norris" <briannorris@chromium.org>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	"Tsai Sung-Fu" <danielsftsai@google.com>,
	"Jingoo Han" <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Chant" <achant@google.com>,
	"Sajid Dalvi" <sdalvi@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: dwc: Separate MSI out to different controller
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:02:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8634g9sthr.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250219175119.vjfdgvltutpzyyp5@thinkpad>

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:51:19 +0000,
Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 11:54:52AM -0800, Brian Norris wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 12:45:52PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 04:23:53PM +0800, Tsai Sung-Fu wrote:
> > > > >Because you cannot set affinity for chained MSIs as these MSIs are muxed to
> > > > >another parent interrupt. Since the IRQ affinity is all about changing which CPU
> > > > >gets the IRQ, affinity setting is only possible for the MSI parent.
> > > > 
> > > > So if we can find the MSI parent by making use of chained
> > > > relationships (32 MSI vectors muxed to 1 parent),
> > > > is it possible that we can add that implementation back ?
> > > > We have another patch that would like to add the
> > > > dw_pci_msi_set_affinity feature.
> > > > Would it be a possible try from your perspective ?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > This question was brought up plenty of times and the concern from the irqchip
> > > maintainer Marc was that if you change the affinity of the parent when the child
> > > MSI affinity changes, it tends to break the userspace ABI of the parent.
> > > 
> > > See below links:
> > > 
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/87mtg0i8m8.wl-maz@kernel.org/
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/874k0bf7f7.wl-maz@kernel.org/
> > 
> > It's hard to meaningfully talk about a patch that hasn't been posted
> > yet, but the implementation we have at least attempts to make *some*
> > kind of resolution to those ABI questions. For one, it rejects affinity
> > changes that are incompatible (by some definition) with affinities
> > requested by other virqs shared on the same parent line. It also updates
> > their effective affinities upon changes.
> > 
> > Those replies seem to over-focus on dynamic, user-space initiated
> > changes too. But how about for "managed-affinity" interrupts? Those are
> > requested by drivers internally to the kernel (a la
> > pci_alloc_irq_vectors_affinity()), and can't be changed by user space
> > afterward. It seems like there'd be room for supporting that, provided
> > we don't allow conflicting/non-overlapping configurations.
> > 
> > I do see that Marc sketched out a complex sysfs/hierarchy API in some of
> > his replies. I'm not sure that would provide too much value to the
> > managed-affinity cases we're interested in, but I get the appeal for
> > user-managed affinity.
> > 
> 
> Whatever your proposal is, please get it reviewed by Marc.

Please see b673fe1a6229a and avoid dragging me into discussion I have
purposely removed myself from. I'd also appreciate if you didn't
volunteer me for review tasks I have no intention to perform (this is
the second time you are doing it, and that's not on).

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-19 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-15  8:32 [PATCH] PCI: dwc: Separate MSI out to different controller Daniel Tsai
2025-01-15 21:23 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-27 10:07 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-02-11  7:16   ` Tsai Sung-Fu
2025-02-11  7:56     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-02-11  8:22       ` Tsai Sung-Fu
2025-02-11  8:23       ` Tsai Sung-Fu
2025-02-14  7:15         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-02-14 19:54           ` Brian Norris
2025-02-19 17:51             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-02-19 18:02               ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2025-02-19 18:09                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-03-03  7:08                   ` Tsai Sung-Fu

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