From: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
To: Yunseong Kim <ysk@kzalloc.com>, Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
rostedt@goodmis.org, Tomas Glozar <tglozar@redhat.com>,
Shung-Hsi Yu <shung-hsi.yu@suse.com>,
Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
syzkaller@googlegroups.com, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Question] Detecting Sleep-in-Atomic Context in PREEMPT_RT via RV (Runtime Verification) monitor rtapp:sleep
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 14:42:54 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871pl1y3oh.fsf@yellow.woof> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53f17978-40e5-4b2e-b719-552612b0e775@kzalloc.com>
Yunseong Kim <ysk@kzalloc.com> writes:
> I specifically believe that RV can encompass the role of
> CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP and even go beyond it.
>
> My reasoning is that even if a sleepable (PREEMPT_RT) spinlock is used
> within an IRQ/preemption disabled section, CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP
> might not trigger a warning if scheduling does not actually occur (i.e.,
> if there is no contention for that spinlock). This is because the actual
> debugging check happens in __might_resched().
That's not how it works. See the description of CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP:
"If you say Y here, various routines which may sleep will become very
noisy if they are called inside atomic sections: when a spinlock is
held, inside an rcu read side critical section, inside preempt disabled
sections, inside an interrupt, etc..."
Nam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-11 5:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-27 6:54 [Question] Detecting Sleep-in-Atomic Context in PREEMPT_RT via RV (Runtime Verification) monitor rtapp:sleep Yunseong Kim
2025-10-27 12:20 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-10-28 22:53 ` Yunseong Kim
2025-10-29 9:24 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-11-05 9:10 ` Nam Cao
2025-12-02 11:14 ` Nam Cao
2025-12-02 11:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-12-11 4:30 ` Yunseong Kim
2025-12-11 5:42 ` Nam Cao [this message]
2025-12-11 7:58 ` Yunseong Kim
2025-12-22 7:40 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-12-23 14:31 ` Yunseong Kim
2025-12-23 15:21 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-12-12 7:02 ` Dan Carpenter
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