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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/22] rust: pin-init: add `std` and `alloc` support from the user-space version
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 18:27:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871pvb8k2b.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D88FBMCD9J1Z.1SMOBNLK6G6UH@proton.me> (Benno Lossin's message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2025 15:05:28 +0000")

"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me> writes:

> On Wed Mar 5, 2025 at 3:29 PM CET, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> "Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me> writes:
>>> On Wed Mar 5, 2025 at 1:22 PM CET, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>>>> "Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me> writes:
>>>>> To synchronize the kernel's version of pin-init with the user-space
>>>>> version, introduce support for `std` and `alloc`. While the kernel uses
>>>>> neither, the user-space version has to support both. Thus include the
>>>>> required `#[cfg]`s and additional code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  rust/pin-init/src/__internal.rs |  27 ++++++
>>>>>  rust/pin-init/src/alloc.rs      | 158 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>  rust/pin-init/src/lib.rs        |  17 ++--
>>>>>  3 files changed, 196 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>>>>  create mode 100644 rust/pin-init/src/alloc.rs
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/rust/pin-init/src/__internal.rs b/rust/pin-init/src/__internal.rs
>>>>> index 74086365a18a..27d4a8619c04 100644
>>>>> --- a/rust/pin-init/src/__internal.rs
>>>>> +++ b/rust/pin-init/src/__internal.rs
>>>>> @@ -186,6 +186,33 @@ pub fn init<E>(self: Pin<&mut Self>, init: impl PinInit<T, E>) -> Result<Pin<&mu
>>>>>      }
>>>>>  }
>>>>>
>>>>> +#[test]
>>>>
>>>> I think the kunit support we have in the pipeline will pick this up?
>>>
>>> Is that support also enabled for crates outside of the `kernel` crate?
>>> I would argue it shouldn't and then this isn't a problem.
>>
>> Re conversation about moving pin_init out of the kernel, we should
>> distinguish between vendored crates and crates that is part of the
>> kernel. This one is now vendored and tests are not meant to be run by
>> the kernel build system and infrastructure. Other crates will be
>> different, living in the kernel.
>
> Yes, but I wouldn't necessarily call this category "vendored"; e.g. we
> could write a crate that is kernel-only, but doesn't actually have any
> code that requires kernel infrastructure. How about we call these
> kernel-agnostic crates? :)

Sounds good to me 👍

>
>>>>> +fn stack_init_reuse() {
>>>>> +    use ::std::{borrow::ToOwned, println, string::String};
>>>>> +    use core::pin::pin;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    #[derive(Debug)]
>>>>> +    struct Foo {
>>>>> +        a: usize,
>>>>> +        b: String,
>>>>> +    }
>>>>> +    let mut slot: Pin<&mut StackInit<Foo>> = pin!(StackInit::uninit());
>>>>> +    let value: Result<Pin<&mut Foo>, core::convert::Infallible> =
>>>>> +        slot.as_mut().init(crate::init!(Foo {
>>>>> +            a: 42,
>>>>> +            b: "Hello".to_owned(),
>>>>> +        }));
>>>>> +    let value = value.unwrap();
>>>>> +    println!("{value:?}");
>>>>> +    let value: Result<Pin<&mut Foo>, core::convert::Infallible> =
>>>>> +        slot.as_mut().init(crate::init!(Foo {
>>>>> +            a: 24,
>>>>> +            b: "world!".to_owned(),
>>>>> +        }));
>>>>> +    let value = value.unwrap();
>>>>> +    println!("{value:?}");
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/rust/pin-init/src/lib.rs b/rust/pin-init/src/lib.rs
>>>>> index 55d8953620f0..1fdca35906a0 100644
>>>>> --- a/rust/pin-init/src/lib.rs
>>>>> +++ b/rust/pin-init/src/lib.rs
>>>>> @@ -204,8 +204,8 @@
>>>>>  //! [structurally pinned fields]:
>>>>>  //!     https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/pin/index.html#pinning-is-structural-for-field
>>>>>  //! [stack]: crate::stack_pin_init
>>>>> -//! [`Arc<T>`]: ../kernel/sync/struct.Arc.html
>>>>> -//! [`Box<T>`]: ../kernel/alloc/struct.KBox.html
>>>>> +//! [`Arc<T>`]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/alloc/sync/struct.Arc.html
>>>>> +//! [`Box<T>`]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/alloc/boxed/struct.Box.html
>>>>
>>>> Now these will render incorrect in the kernel docs, right?
>>>
>>> What do you mean by that? The link will resolve to the std versions of
>>> `Arc` and `Box`. But that is also what this crate will support, as it
>>> doesn't know about the kernel's own alloc.
>>
>> I mean that if I render the kernel documentation, go to `pin_init` and
>> click the `Arc<T>` link, I end up in `std`. But I am in the kernel, so
>> not what I would expect.
>>
>> But I guess there is no easy solution? Being a kernel developer, I would
>> prefer a kernel first approach. Can't have it all, I guess.
>
> I could change the link depending on the `kernel` cfg, so
>
>     #![cfg_attr(kernel, doc = "[`Arc<T>`]: https://rust.docs.kernel.org..")]
>     #![cfg_attr(not(kernel), doc = "[`Arc<T>`]: https://doc.rust-lang.org...")]
>
> But if anyone visits the documentation on `docs.rs`, then they will get
> the user-space one... What do you think?

That would be nice. I think kernel developers would read the docs via
rust.docs.kernel.org, if they read them online (myself being my only
reference, so not enough sample size).


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg



  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250304225245.2033120-1-benno.lossin@proton.me>
2025-03-04 22:53 ` [PATCH 01/22] rust: init: disable doctests Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  8:51   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 12:53     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 13:00       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-05 14:09       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 14:31         ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:17   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-04 22:53 ` [PATCH 02/22] rust: move pin-init API into its own directory Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:03   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05  9:17   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-04 22:53 ` [PATCH 03/22] rust: add extensions to the pin-init crate and move relevant documentation there Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:11   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 11:03     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:17   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-04 22:53 ` [PATCH 04/22] rust: pin-init: move proc-macro documentation into pin-init crate Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:18   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05  9:34   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 11:05     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-04 22:53 ` [PATCH 05/22] rust: pin-init: change examples to the user-space version Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:19   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 10:06   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:53 ` [PATCH 06/22] rust: pin-init: call `try_[pin_]init!` from `[pin_]init!` instead of `__init_internal!` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:19   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 10:12   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:54 ` [PATCH 07/22] rust: pin-init: move the default error behavior of `try_[pin_]init` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:21   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 10:29   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 10:47     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-04 22:54 ` [PATCH 08/22] rust: pin-init: move `InPlaceInit` and impls of `InPlaceWrite` into the kernel crate Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:23   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 11:18   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 12:06     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 12:28       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 12:37         ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-04 22:54 ` [PATCH 09/22] rust: pin-init: move impl `Zeroable` for `Opaque` and `Option<KBox<T>>` " Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:24   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 11:26   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 12:05     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 12:11       ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 12:17         ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 12:49           ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 12:51             ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-04 22:54 ` [PATCH 10/22] rust: add `ZeroableOption` and implement it instead of `Zeroable` for `Option<Box<T, A>>` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:25   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 11:30   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:54 ` [PATCH 11/22] rust: pin-init: fix documentation links Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:26   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 11:37   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 11:49     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-04 22:54 ` [PATCH 12/22] rust: pin-init: remove kernel-crate dependency Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:27   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 11:49   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 12:00     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 12:27       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:55 ` [PATCH 13/22] rust: pin-init: change the way the `paste!` macro is called Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:28   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 11:52   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:55 ` [PATCH 14/22] rust: add pin-init crate build infrastructure Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 11:59   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 12:10     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 12:31       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 12:50         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-05 13:00           ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 14:19           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 14:34             ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 12:47     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-04 22:55 ` [PATCH 15/22] rust: make pin-init its own crate Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:29   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 12:12   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 13:40     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 14:20       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:55 ` [PATCH 16/22] rust: pin-init: add `std` and `alloc` support from the user-space version Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:32   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 12:22   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 13:55     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 14:29       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 15:05         ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 17:27           ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-03-04 22:55 ` [PATCH 17/22] rust: pin-init: synchronize documentation with " Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:33   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 12:52   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:55 ` [PATCH 18/22] rust: pin-init: internal: synchronize with " Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 12:56   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:56 ` [PATCH 19/22] rust: pin-init: miscellaneous synchronization with the " Benno Lossin
2025-03-05 12:57   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:56 ` [PATCH 20/22] rust: pin-init: add miscellaneous files from " Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:35   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 13:04   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 13:37     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-05 13:58       ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-04 22:56 ` [PATCH 21/22] rust: pin-init: re-enable doctests Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  9:35   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-05 13:05   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-04 22:56 ` [PATCH 22/22] MAINTAINERS: add entry for the `pin-init` crate Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  0:17   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-05  0:43     ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-05  5:14       ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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