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From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: Luo Jiaxing <luojiaxing@huawei.com>,
	sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxarm@huawei.com,
	bobo.shaobowang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: stop spining waiter when console resume to flush prb
Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 12:32:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871raeop5q.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YJkIK9cyHr46UAFP@alley>

On 2021-05-10, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> The current plan is to move console work to kthreads (separate
> preemptive context). Using IRQ is a complete opposite way.
>
> There is always the fight between getting the messages out as soon
> as possible and the risk of breaking the system (softlockups,
> deadlocks).
>
> The kthread approach reduces the risk of system breakage to a bare
> minimum. The price is that some messages might never reach console.
> There is finally a consensus to give it a try. If it fails, we might
> start looking for alternatives again.

+1

I think it is clear that any such fixups will disappear once
atomic-consoles and console printing kthreads arrive. That doesn't mean
we should ignore the fixups. We just need to decide if it is a real
problem that needs our immediate attention, thus warranting a fixup in
the current implementation.

I can see the suspend/resume issue might be a real problem. If this
should be addressed now, I would support Petr's patch, forcing the
backlog to be printed in the preemptible resuming context. But let's
just keep it a suspend/resume fixup. I do not think we want to start
playing with how console_unlock() behaves.

John Ogness

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-10 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-06  8:00 [PATCH] printk: stop spining waiter when console resume to flush prb Luo Jiaxing
2021-05-06 13:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2021-05-07  8:35   ` luojiaxing
2021-05-06 13:39 ` Petr Mladek
2021-05-06 14:07   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-05-06 14:12     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-05-06 15:14       ` John Ogness
2021-05-07  7:58         ` luojiaxing
2021-05-07  7:33       ` luojiaxing
2021-05-07  7:49         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-05-07 16:36       ` Petr Mladek
2021-05-10  8:26         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-05-10 10:17           ` Petr Mladek
2021-05-10 10:32             ` John Ogness [this message]
2021-05-10 11:16               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-05-10 11:43             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-05-07 16:13     ` Petr Mladek
2021-05-10  8:29       ` luojiaxing
2021-05-10  9:50         ` Petr Mladek
2021-05-10 12:06           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-05-10  7:41   ` luojiaxing
2021-05-10  9:30     ` Petr Mladek
2021-05-11  7:32       ` luojiaxing
2021-05-11  9:08         ` Petr Mladek
2021-05-13  7:55           ` luojiaxing

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