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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey.schaufler@intel.com>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"the arch\/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: STIBP by default.. Revert?
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:56:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871s7i0wkl.fsf@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjo9==zLdUuZkCgMx1YBUTpZkD3NnLBPDf7Fw388z5Y6g@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Sun, 18 Nov 2018 14:36:09 -0800")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 2:17 PM Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org> wrote:
>> Which gets us back to Tim's fixup patch. Do you still prefer the revert,
>> given the existence of that?
>
> I don't think the code needs to be reverted, but the *behavior* of
> just unconditionally enabling STIBP needs to be reverted.

Actually I think it should be reverted. Yes of course opt-in
is needed.

But also when you opt-in it doesn't make sense to set STIBP
when the sibling is running the same security context, which
is actually a common case. So to even use it properly you would
need some scheduler support to detect these cases and only
enable it then with opt-in. These patches didn't even try to tackle
this problem.

-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-18 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-18 20:36 STIBP by default.. Revert? Linus Torvalds
2018-11-18 21:49 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-18 21:59   ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-18 22:00   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-18 22:17     ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-18 22:35       ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-18 22:36       ` Tony Luck
2018-11-18 22:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-18 22:55         ` Tim Chen
2018-11-18 23:56         ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2018-11-18 22:40       ` Tim Chen
2018-11-18 23:58         ` Andi Kleen
2018-11-19  3:48         ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-19 12:49         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-18 23:01       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-18 23:04     ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-11-20 15:27       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-20 23:43         ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-11-19  8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-19  8:43   ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-20 15:20 ` Jiri Kosina

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