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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	linux390@de.ibm.com, Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Shirley Ma <xma@us.ibm.com>,
	lguest@lists.ozlabs.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <tahm@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	steved@us.ibm.com, habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 15:57:39 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8739jwk8is.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110528200204.GB7046@redhat.com>

On Sat, 28 May 2011 23:02:04 +0300, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:58:23PM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > ie. free two packets for every one we're about to add.  For steady state
> > that would work really well.
> 
> Sure, with indirect buffers, but if we
> don't use indirect (and we discussed switching indirect off
> dynamically in the past) this becomes harder to
> be sure about. I think I understand why but
> does not a simple capacity check make it more obvious?

...

> >  Then we hit the case where the ring
> > seems full after we do the add: at that point, screw latency, and just
> > try to free all the buffers we can.
> 
> I see. But the code currently does this:
> 
> 	for(..)
> 		get_buf
> 	add_buf
> 	if (capacity < max_sk_frags+2) {
> 		if (!enable_cb)
> 			for(..)
> 				get_buf
> 	}
> 
> 
> In other words the second get_buf is only called
> in the unlikely case of race condition.
> 
> So we'll need to add *another* call to get_buf.
> Is it just me or is this becoming messy?

Yes, good point.  I really wonder if anyone would be able to measure the
difference between simply freeing 2 every time (with possible extra
stalls for strange cases) and the more complete version.

But it runs against my grain to implement heuristics when one more call
would make it provably reliable.

Please find a way to make that for loop less ugly though!

Thanks,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-30  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-19 23:10 [PATCHv2 00/14] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 01/14] virtio: event index interface Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 02/14] virtio ring: inline function to check for events Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:29   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 03/14] virtio_ring: support event idx feature Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:10 ` [PATCHv2 04/14] vhost: support event index Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:31   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 05/14] virtio_test: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:32   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 06/14] virtio: add api for delayed callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:33   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 07/14] virtio_net: delay TX callbacks Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 08/14] virtio_ring: Add capacity check API Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 09/14] virtio_net: fix TX capacity checks using new API Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:13   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:11 ` [PATCHv2 10/14] virtio_net: limit xmit polling Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:19   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-22 12:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-23  2:07       ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-23 11:19         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  7:54           ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24  9:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24  9:27               ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 11:29                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-24 12:50                   ` Krishna Kumar2
2011-05-24 13:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  1:28           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  5:50             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25  1:35           ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-25  6:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-26  3:28               ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-28 20:02                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-30  6:27                   ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 11/14] virtio: don't delay avail index update Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-21  2:26   ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 12/14] virtio: 64 bit features Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 13/14] virtio_test: update for " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:12 ` [PATCHv2 14/14] vhost: fix " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-19 23:20 ` [PATCHv2 00/14] virtio and vhost-net performance enhancements David Miller
2011-05-20  7:51 ` Rusty Russell
2011-05-26 15:32 ` [PERF RESULTS] " Krishna Kumar2
     [not found]   ` <OFE30C8D78.526FF88D-ON8725789C.00563B8C-8825789C.0056469F@us.ibm.com>
2011-05-26 16:21     ` Krishna Kumar2
     [not found]     ` <OFF9D0E604.B865A006-ON6525789C.00597010-6525789C.0059987A@LocalDomain>
2011-05-26 16:29       ` Krishna Kumar2

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