From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964910AbVKVK7a (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:59:30 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964913AbVKVK7a (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:59:30 -0500 Received: from mail.enyo.de ([212.9.189.167]:49292 "EHLO mail.enyo.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964910AbVKVK7a (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:59:30 -0500 From: Florian Weimer To: Neil Brown Cc: Jon Smirl , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Alan Cox , Dave Airlie , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch References: <20051121225303.GA19212@kroah.com> <20051121230136.GB19212@kroah.com> <1132616132.26560.62.camel@gaston> <21d7e9970511211647r4df761a2l287715368bf89eb6@mail.gmail.com> <1132623268.20233.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1132626478.26560.104.camel@gaston> <9e4733910511211923r69cdb835pf272ac745ae24ed7@mail.gmail.com> <17282.39560.978065.606788@cse.unsw.edu.au> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:58:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <17282.39560.978065.606788@cse.unsw.edu.au> (Neil Brown's message of "Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:11:52 +1100") Message-ID: <873blpgd8z.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Neil Brown: > A question worth asking is: Who needs whom? Do we (FLOSS community) > need them (Graphics hardware manufactures) or do they need us? And what do we actually need? 2D graphics, with some very, very basic acceleration? Basic 3D support? Playback of encrypted content? Personally, I only need very basic 2D sypport, but this is probably the exception. The other extreme is the digital media desktop, which will very soon need to support encrypted video streams. So what do we want? What sacrifices in terms of proprietary software and user restrictions are we willing to make?