From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Oliver Mangold" <oliver.mangold@pm.me>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] rust: adding UniqueRefCounted and UniqueRef types
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 18:24:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875xkn8k5z.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLgirYTV6K2QoH9LLwhHxJzz=h1R0jB4G2kpKQ_pBtBgePg@mail.gmail.com> (Alice Ryhl's message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2025 17:02:10 +0100")
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 4:39 PM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 3:56 PM Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Alice,
>> >>
>> >> On 250305 1339, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 11:31:44AM +0000, Oliver Mangold wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > +impl<T: UniqueRefCounted> Deref for UniqueRef<T> {
>> >> > > + type Target = T;
>> >> > > +
>> >> > > + fn deref(&self) -> &Self::Target {
>> >> > > + // SAFETY: The type invariants guarantee that the object is valid.
>> >> > > + unsafe { self.ptr.as_ref() }
>> >> > > + }
>> >> > > +}
>> >> >
>> >> > What stops people from doing this?
>> >> >
>> >> > let my_unique: UniqueRef<T> = ...;
>> >> > let my_ref: &T = &*my_unique;
>> >> > let my_shared: ARef<T> = ARef::from(my_ref);
>> >> >
>> >> > Now it is no longer unique.
>> >> >
>> >> Oh, indeed. That's a serious problem. I see 2 options to deal with that:
>> >>
>> >> 1. remove ARef::From<&T>
>> >>
>> >> I checked the users of this, and it looks to me like there is rather
>> >> a limited number and they are easy to fix by replacing the &T with ARef<T>.
>> >> But I assume that wouldn't be welcome as it is intrusive nonetheless
>> >> and of course there is ergonomic value in having the function around.
>> >
>> > Definitely not an option. There are many users of this function that
>> > are in the process of being upstreamed. The ability to go &T ->
>> > ARef<T> is pretty fundamental for ARef.
>>
>> Not having `impl From<&T> for UniqueArc` seems to work out fine.
>>
>> It would be unfortunate if `impl From<&T> for ARef<T>` would prevent us
>> from having a unique version of `ARef`. I would say that is a valid
>> reason to consider removing that impl.
>
> I think the impl is really important. It's required to do things such as:
>
> let mm = ARef::from(&*current!().mm());
>
> Without the impl (or something equivalent), it's not possible to
> increment the refcount of the &Mm returned by `current!().mm()`. There
> are many other examples of this.
Right. Let's see what we can figure out of other solutions then.
Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-05 17:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-05 11:31 [PATCH v4] rust: adding UniqueRefCounted and UniqueRef types Oliver Mangold
2025-03-05 13:39 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 14:56 ` Oliver Mangold
2025-03-05 15:13 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 15:38 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 16:02 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 17:24 ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-03-06 9:35 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-06 9:48 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-06 10:14 ` Oliver Mangold
2025-03-06 11:31 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-06 12:03 ` Oliver Mangold
2025-03-06 12:08 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 15:42 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 16:15 ` Oliver Mangold
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