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From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	werner <w.landgraf@ru.ru>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: v3.4-rc2 out-of-memory problems (was Re: 3.4-rc1 sticks-and-crashs)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:04:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8762d9v10x.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw7GsiZbNW84WVMUMT6C0Sw82jxaYxeaaB8qq=41Ep5Wg@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Sun, 8 Apr 2012 20:11:04 -0700")

On 2012-04-09 05:11 +0200, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 19:42:31 -0700 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Apr __8 20:29:11 werner kernel: Normal free:44004kB min:44012kB low:55012kB
>>> > high:66016kB active_anon:0kB inactive_anon:0kB active_file:132kB
>>> > inactive_file:140kB unevictable:0kB isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB
>>> > present:885944kB mlocked:0kB dirty:0kB writeback:0kB mapped:0kB shmem:0kB
>>> > slab_reclaimable:13068kB slab_unreclaimable:147784kB kernel_stack:628952kB
>>> > pagetables:0kB unstable:0kB bounce:0kB writeback_tmp:0kB pages_scanned:1376
>>> > all_unreclaimable? yes
>>
>> That's claiming that 600MB of ZONE_NORMAL is being used for kernel stacks.
>
> Well, that would certainly eat up memory that is hard to get back.

While I did not experience any crashes or instabilities (yet?), I'm also
seeing memory leaks.  On a system started this morning, with hardly
anything running:

,----
| $ pstree
| init-+-acpid
|      |-atd
|      |-cron
|      |-dbus-daemon
|      |-dhclient
|      |-dictd
|      |-5*[getty]
|      |-gpm
|      |-login---zsh---pstree
|      |-lpd
|      |-master-+-pickup
|      |        `-qmgr
|      |-named---4*[{named}]
|      |-rpc.statd
|      |-rpcbind
|      |-rsyslogd---3*[{rsyslogd}]
|      |-timidity
|      |-udevd---2*[udevd]
|      `-wpa_supplicant
`----

where I would expect no more than 50 MB used, 400 MB are actually in use:

,----
| $ free
|              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
| Mem:       3348400    1849712    1498688          0     328960    1119180
| -/+ buffers/cache:     401572    2946828
| Swap:      3719040          0    3719040
`----

Cheers,
       Sven

> Werner - if you can reproduce this, can you get a "ps axl" or similar
> when it starts happening? Or probably even long before, since it
> probably starts long long earlier.
>
> Or does anybody see anything that keeps thread counts raised so that
> "free_task()" doesn't get done. kernel/profoe.c does that
> "profile_handoff_task()" thing - but only oprofile and the android
> low-memory-killer logic seems to use it though. But that's exactly the
> kind of thing that Werner's "configure everything" might enable -
> Werner?
>
> What else would do this? I'd suspect the /proc code, but that grabs
> the mm_struct, and those particular changes were pre-3.3 anyway.
>
> Adding Oleg just in case he has any ideas about process code changes
> (or some usermodehelper thing that leaks processes, or whatever).


  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-09  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-09  2:42 v3.4-rc2 out-of-memory problems (was Re: 3.4-rc1 sticks-and-crashs) Linus Torvalds
2012-04-09  2:50 ` Andrew Morton
2012-04-09  3:11   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-09  7:04     ` Sven Joachim [this message]
2012-04-09 15:24       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-09 15:43         ` Sven Joachim
2012-04-09 15:57       ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-09 16:19         ` Sven Joachim
2012-04-09 16:33           ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-09 17:00             ` Pekka Enberg
2012-04-09 17:19               ` Sven Joachim
2012-04-09 17:00             ` Sven Joachim
2012-04-09 17:20               ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-09 10:15     ` David Rientjes
2012-04-09 15:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-09 21:22         ` David Rientjes
2012-04-09 22:09           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-09 23:25             ` David Rientjes
2012-04-09 23:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-10  0:04                 ` David Rientjes
2012-04-14 20:50                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-09 23:56               ` [patch] android, lowmemorykiller: remove task handoff notifier David Rientjes
2012-04-10  1:23                 ` Colin Cross
     [not found]               ` <web-723076709@zbackend1.aha.ru>
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1204091637280.21813@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
     [not found]                   ` <web-723082731@zbackend1.aha.ru>
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1204091707580.21813@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
2012-04-10  7:09                       ` v3.4-rc2 out-of-memory problems (was Re: 3.4-rc1 sticks-and-crashs) werner
2012-04-10  7:10                       ` werner
2012-04-09 22:13           ` Colin Cross
2012-04-09 22:21             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-04-09 22:44               ` john stultz
2012-04-09 22:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-09 23:37             ` David Rientjes
2012-04-10  0:23               ` Colin Cross
2012-04-10  0:32                 ` David Rientjes
2012-04-10  1:21                   ` Colin Cross
2012-04-10  1:33                     ` David Rientjes
2012-04-10  1:37                       ` Colin Cross
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-04-09  6:52 werner
2012-04-09  7:01 werner
2012-04-10  1:52 werner
2012-04-10  1:51 ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-10  2:13   ` werner
2012-04-10 12:53 werner
2012-04-14 19:38 werner
2012-04-14 19:58 ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-14 21:03 ` Linus Torvalds

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