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From: Gerd Knorr <kraxel@bytesex.org>
To: Eyal Lebedinsky <eyal@eyal.emu.id.au>,
	Michael Hunold <hunold@convergence.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.10-rc3 oops when 'modprobe -r dvb-bt8xx'
Date: 07 Dec 2004 19:03:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87653ex9wy.fsf@bytesex.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41B1BD24.4050603@eyal.emu.id.au>

Eyal Lebedinsky <eyal@eyal.emu.id.au> writes:

> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > Please do test this - and don't send me anything but bug-fixes. Let's aim
> > for a real 2.6.10 before xmas (or hanukkah, or whatever your favourite
> > holiday happens to be).
> 
> In the spirit of festive testing I would like to say that the oops that I
> enjoyed throughout rc2-bk* is still present in -rc3. -mm series does not
> have this problem.

Oh joy.  I think thats a different one.  And I suspect there are a few
more of that kind which simply didn't show up yet because the user
base is too small.  The current way of doing the initialization of the
frontend devices (in Linus' tree) is simply a big mess and you may get
all sorts of strange effects depending on the order you load or unload
the modules if one of the parties involved doesn't get it right.

> 	modprobe -r dvb-bt8xx

>   [<f90e2634>] mt352_detach_client+0x52/0x54 [mt352]

What happens if you "rmmod mt352" first?  Guess it works without
oopsing then?

I somehow feel the best way to deal with that is to merge the
redesigned frontend handing pending in -mm at the moment into Linus
tree _now_, that should kill that whole class of bugs.

That may result in the dvb subsystem not being that stable in 2.6.10.
But dvb not being rock solid in 2.6.10 will very likely happen anyway
as the code currently in Linus' tree isn't very stable as well.  I
think the chance that it gets even worse is small enougth that we can
take the risk.

Additional bonus would be that we don't get bugreports for the old
code base which is already obsolete (and nobody wants to work on
because of that).

Michael?

  Gerd

-- 
#define printk(args...) fprintf(stderr, ## args)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-12-07 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-04  0:19 Linux 2.6.10-rc3 Linus Torvalds
2004-12-04  9:06 ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2004-12-04 17:06   ` Alex Romosan
2004-12-04 17:24     ` Ari Pollak
2004-12-04 17:40       ` Alex Romosan
2004-12-04 19:21         ` Ari Pollak
2004-12-04 21:17         ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-04 21:37           ` Alex Romosan
2004-12-04 21:42             ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-04 23:48               ` Paul Ionescu
2004-12-04 21:47         ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2004-12-04 13:35 ` Linux 2.6.10-rc3 oops when 'modprobe -r dvb-bt8xx' Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-12-05 10:15   ` Cal Peake
2004-12-05 11:51     ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-12-05 12:50       ` Cal Peake
2004-12-07 18:03   ` Gerd Knorr [this message]
2004-12-07 20:34     ` Michael Hunold
2004-12-07 21:55       ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-07 23:08         ` Gerd Knorr
2004-12-06 17:23 ` FS Corruption [Re: Linux 2.6.10-rc3] Kristofer T. Karas
2004-12-06 19:20 ` Linux 2.6.10-rc3 (compile stats) John Cherry

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