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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: Arthur Kiyanovski <akiyano@amazon.com>
Cc: "David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Miroslav Lichvar" <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Cochran" <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	"Wen Gu" <guwen@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	"Anna-Maria Behnsen" <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Julien Ridoux" <ridouxj@amazon.com>,
	"Ryan Luu" <rluu@amazon.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] timekeeping: Fix draft tracking precision and add feed-forward discipline via vmclock
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 16:12:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877boqtg3g.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <177969636528.22488.1740278196841124440.b4-reply@b4>

Arthur!

On Mon, May 25 2026 at 08:06, Arthur Kiyanovski wrote:
> On 2026-05-24 14:36:35+02:00, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Fri, May 22 2026 at 17:23, David Woodhouse wrote:
> I'm the author of the PHC timestamp attributes series [1] that this
> applies to. Before I spin v4 based on this design, I want to confirm
> three implementation details:
>
> 1. Counter IDs: No stable UAPI clocksource numbering exists today 
> (enum clocksource_ids is kernel-internal). I'll define stable constants
> in include/uapi/linux/ptp_clock.h (e.g., PTP_CSID_X86_TSC,
> PTP_CSID_ARM_ARCH) and map internal IDs in the chardev layer.

Either that or we make the clocksource IDs part of UABI, which avoids
back and forth mapping.

> 2. Array sizing: The timestamps array will be fixed at PTP_MAX_SAMPLES (25)
> in the ioctl struct, not a flexible array, to keep
> copy_from_user/copy_to_user bounded.

Why? If userspace allocates an array size of 10k then the kernel will
still only copy out PTP_MAX_SAMPLES entries.

If it allocates two and asks for 10, that's not a kernel problem when
adjacent data is overwritten. That's not any different from read(2) or
other syscalls which do what they are asked to.

> 3. Ioctl numbers: Two separate ioctls (PTP_SYS_OFFSET_EXTENDED_ATTRS and
> PTP_SYS_OFFSET_PRECISE_ATTRS) sharing the same payload struct, matching
> existing PTP convention.

As I said, I have no strong opinion on that and that's a question to be
answered by user space people. I personally would prefer one just
because I'm lazy :)

Thanks,

        tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-26 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-17 21:25 [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] timekeeping: Fix draft tracking precision and add feed-forward discipline via vmclock David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/8] timekeeping: Remove xtime_remainder from ntp_error accumulation David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/8] timekeeping: Account for clawback adjustment in ntp_error David Woodhouse
2026-05-19  1:59   ` John Stultz
2026-05-19 10:04     ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 19:28       ` John Stultz
2026-05-20 10:47         ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-20 12:37           ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/8] timekeeping: Clamp time_offset delta to prevent infinite tail David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 13:25   ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-19 13:31     ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 14:17       ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-19 15:06         ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/8] timekeeping: Add absolute reference for feed-forward clock discipline David Woodhouse
2026-05-19  2:09   ` John Stultz
2026-05-19 11:07     ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/8] ptp_vmclock: Feed reference to timekeeping for feed-forward discipline David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/8] timekeeping: Guard against divide-by-zero in timekeeping_adjust David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/8] timekeeping: Drive time_offset skew via per-tick ntp_error transfer David Woodhouse
2026-05-17 21:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/8] WIP: kernel/time: Add /dev/vmclock_host miscdev David Woodhouse
2026-05-19 13:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] timekeeping: Fix draft tracking precision and add feed-forward discipline via vmclock Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-19 15:50   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 10:39     ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-20 12:21       ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-21  6:35         ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-21  9:54           ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-25  8:08             ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-25  9:14               ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-26  7:10                 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-26 10:00                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-27  7:46                     ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-05-27 12:28                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-21 18:30         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-21 21:06           ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-22  8:02             ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-22 10:01               ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-22 15:28                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-22 16:23                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-24 12:36                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 13:13                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-24 15:05                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-25  8:06                       ` Arthur Kiyanovski
2026-05-25  8:41                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 14:12                         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-05-22 16:50                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-24 15:15                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 15:37                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 15:48                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 16:36                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-24 16:42                           ` David Woodhouse

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