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From: Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com>
To: Bernd Schubert <bernd@bsbernd.com>
Cc: Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>,
	 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] fuse: add new function to invalidate cache for all inodes
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:58:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877c5xzt8u.fsf@igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <400ffcf9-9b98-4e94-81eb-3e33177ba334@bsbernd.com> (Bernd Schubert's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2025 16:18:30 +0100")

On Mon, Feb 10 2025, Bernd Schubert wrote:

> On 2/10/25 11:48, Luis Henriques wrote:
>> [re-sending -- for some reason I did a simple 'reply', not a 'reply-all'.]
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 10 2025, Bernd Schubert wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/10/25 10:48, Luis Henriques wrote:
>>>> Currently userspace is able to notify the kernel to invalidate the cache for
>>>> an inode.  This means that, if all the inodes in a filesystem need to be
>>>> invalidated, then userspace needs to iterate through all of them and do this
>>>> kernel notification separately.
>>>>
>>>> This patch adds a new option that allows userspace to invalidate all the
>>>> inodes with a single notification operation.  In addition to invalidate all
>>>> the inodes, it also shrinks the sb dcache.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> As suggested by Bernd, this patch v2 simply adds an helper function that
>>>> will make it easier to replace most of it's code by a call to function
>>>> super_iter_inodes() when Dave Chinner's patch[1] eventually gets merged.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20241002014017.3801899-3-david@fromorbit.com
>>>>
>>>>  fs/fuse/inode.c           | 59 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  include/uapi/linux/fuse.h |  3 ++
>>>>  2 files changed, 62 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/fs/fuse/inode.c b/fs/fuse/inode.c
>>>> index e9db2cb8c150..be51b53006d8 100644
>>>> --- a/fs/fuse/inode.c
>>>> +++ b/fs/fuse/inode.c
>>>> @@ -547,6 +547,62 @@ struct inode *fuse_ilookup(struct fuse_conn *fc, u64 nodeid,
>>>>  	return NULL;
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>> +static void inval_single_inode(struct inode *inode, struct fuse_conn *fc)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	struct fuse_inode *fi;
>>>> +
>>>> +	fi = get_fuse_inode(inode);
>>>> +	spin_lock(&fi->lock);
>>>> +	fi->attr_version = atomic64_inc_return(&fc->attr_version);
>>>> +	spin_unlock(&fi->lock);
>>>> +	fuse_invalidate_attr(inode);
>>>> +	forget_all_cached_acls(inode);
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you, much easier to read.
>>>
>>> Could fuse_reverse_inval_inode() call into this?
>> 
>> Yep, it could indeed.  I'll do that in the next iteration, thanks!
>> 
>>> What are the semantics 
>>> for  invalidate_inode_pages2_range() in this case? Totally invalidate?
>>> No page cache invalidation at all as right now? If so, why?
>> 
>> So, if I change fuse_reverse_inval_inode() to use this help, it will still
>> need to keep the call to invalidate_inode_pages2_range().  But in the new
>> function fuse_reverse_inval_all(), I'm not doing it explicitly.  Instead,
>> that function calls into shrink_dcache_sb().  I *think* that by doing so
>> the invalidation will eventually happen.  Or am I wrong assuming that?
>
> I think it will drop it, if the dentry cache is the last user/reference
> of the inode. My issue is that it changes semantics a bit - without
> FUSE_INVAL_ALL_INODES the page cache is invalidated based on the given
> offset. Obviously we cannot give the offset for all inodes, but we
> at least document the different semantics in a comment above
> FUSE_INVAL_ALL_INODES? Sorry, should have asked earlier for it, just
> busy with multiple things in parallel...

Yep, that makes sense.  In fact, my initial approach was to add a
completely different API with a FUSE_NOTIFY_INVAL_INODE_ALL operation.
But then I realized that I could simply hijack FUSE_NOTIFY_INVAL_INODE.
This would make things a lot easier, specially in the userspace side --
libfuse could even be used without *any* change at all.  (Obviously, I
expect to send a PR with the new flag and some documentation once this
patch is acceptable.)

Anyway, I'll also add some comments to this patch.  Thanks for your
feedback, Bernd.

Cheers,
-- 
Luís

      reply	other threads:[~2025-02-10 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-10  9:48 [RFC PATCH v2] fuse: add new function to invalidate cache for all inodes Luis Henriques
2025-02-10  9:58 ` Bernd Schubert
2025-02-10 10:48   ` Luis Henriques
2025-02-10 15:18     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-02-10 15:58       ` Luis Henriques [this message]

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