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From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shreyas Joshi <shreyas.joshi@biamp.com>,
	shreyasjoshi15@gmail.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] printk: Add kernel parameter: mute_console
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:59:15 +0206	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877driz50k.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5a30b3e8-c2c3-ceae-517e-c93fb2c3118f@roeck-us.net>

On 2020-10-22, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> index 02d4adbf98d2..52b9e7f5468d 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> @@ -2974,6 +2974,12 @@
>>>  			Used for mtrr cleanup. It is spare mtrr entries number.
>>>  			Set to 2 or more if your graphical card needs more.
>>>  
>>> +	mute_console	[KNL]
>>> +			Completely disable printing of kernel messages to
>>> +			the console. It can still be used as stdin, stdout,
>
> "to all consoles"
>
>>> +			and stderr for the init process. Also it can be used
>>> +			for login.
>> 
>> IMHO it would make more sense for this to be a console option:
>> 
>>     console=ttyS0,115200,mute
>> 
>> Then other consoles could still exist that are not muted.
>> 
> Then why specify this console in the first place ?

Because you may still want to use it for stdin/stdout/stderr of PID 1
and/or logins. I understood "mute" as meaning the user does not want to
see kernel logging. But everything else should still work as usual.

>> On a side note, I am considering proposing something similar for my
>> printk-rework efforts. Once console printers are moved to kthreads, some
>> users may not care about latencies and instead prefer synchronous
>> printing. My idea for this is to provide a "sync" option for the
>> console:
>> 
>>     console=ttyS0,115200,sync
>
> The whole point of the exercise is to disable all consoles, including
> default ones which are not explicitly specified on the command line.

In that case I think specifying something like:

    console=null

makes that most sense. I think implementing a "null console" driver
would be quite simple. Then there would be no need for special handling
in the printk subsystem.

John Ogness

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-22 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-22 11:42 [RFC 0/2] printk: Official way to mute consoles Petr Mladek
2020-10-22 11:42 ` [RFC 1/2] printk: Add kernel parameter: mute_console Petr Mladek
2020-10-22 13:10   ` John Ogness
2020-10-22 14:15     ` Guenter Roeck
2020-10-22 14:53       ` John Ogness [this message]
2020-10-23 11:49         ` Petr Mladek
2020-10-23 14:52           ` Guenter Roeck
2020-10-22 13:45   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-10-22 14:22     ` Guenter Roeck
2020-10-23  9:46     ` Petr Mladek
2020-10-23  0:33   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-10-23 12:11     ` Petr Mladek
2020-10-23 15:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-10-22 11:42 ` RFC 2/2] printk: Restore and document obsolete ways to disable console output Petr Mladek
2020-10-22 14:23   ` Guenter Roeck

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