From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752313AbaEGF6J (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2014 01:58:09 -0400 Received: from ozlabs.org ([103.22.144.67]:33826 "EHLO ozlabs.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751274AbaEGF6G (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2014 01:58:06 -0400 From: Rusty Russell To: Andrew Morton , Oleg Nesterov Cc: Kirill Tkhai , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar , tkhai@yandex.ru Subject: Re: [PATCH] kmod: Pass usermodehelper "-b" to use blacklist commands In-Reply-To: <20140506155428.6f8602726560c21ff099e28c@linux-foundation.org> References: <1399363388.3718.59.camel@tkhai> <20140506173136.GA1535@redhat.com> <20140506155428.6f8602726560c21ff099e28c@linux-foundation.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.17 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 10:53:37 +0930 Message-ID: <877g5ybcva.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Andrew Morton writes: > On Tue, 6 May 2014 19:31:36 +0200 Oleg Nesterov wrote: > >> On 05/06, Kirill Tkhai wrote: >> > >> > User may want to prohibit autoloading of some modules, >> > which happens when someone in kernel calls request_module(). >> > >> > For comparison, udev considers blacklist even if corresponding >> > hardware presents in the system. In-kernel request_module() >> > functionality is rather similar to udev's, so user may want >> > to disallow it too. >> >> Personally, I am always nervous (perhaps too much) when it comes to the >> user-visible changes like this. >> >> And if a user/distro wants "-b" it can create a simple script which just >> execs /sbin/modprobe with "-b" and overwrite /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe. >> >> OTOH. What if /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe points to a binary which is not >> /sbin/modprobe and doesn't expect "-b" ? This can break things. >> > > Yup. Perhaps the kernel should provide modprobe with a reliable way of > knowing "you were called by the kernel" (if there isn't presently a > way) and let modprobe work out what to do. Indeed, this is a non-starter. Cheers, Rusty.