From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Add PGM protocol support to the IP stack
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:43:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877hp4i76d.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1003221146260.17230@router.home> (Christoph Lameter's message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:51:08 -0500 (CDT)")
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
>> Multicast reliable kernel protocols are somewhat new, I guess one
>> would need to make sure to come up with a clean generic interface
>> for them first.
>
> It has been around for a long time in another OS. I wonder if I should use
> the socket API realized there as a model or come up with something new
> from scratch?
If the other API doesn't have a serious flaw I guess it's better
to aim for a sub/superset at least, to make porting applications easier.
>
> What I have right now is:
>
> 1. Opening a socket
>
> A. Native PGM
>
> fd = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_RDM, IPPROTO_PGM)
RDM = Reliable ? Multicast ?
> B. PGM over UDP
>
> fd = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_RDM, IPPROTO_UDP)
>
> C. PGM over SHM (?)
>
> fd = socket(AF_UNIX, SOCK_RDM, 0)
Not sure how that should work.
> 3. Sending and receiving
>
> Use the usual socket read and write operations and the various flavors of waiting
> for a packet via select, poll, epoll etc.
>
> Packet sizes are determined by the number of packets in a single sendmsg() unless
Number of bytes surely?
> overridden by the RM_SET_MESSAGE_BOUNDARY socket option.
That's unusual to have such a option (except the MTU). What is it good for?
>
> 4. Transmitter Socket Options
>
>
> A. Setting the window size / rate.
>
> struct pgm_send_window x;
> x.RateKbitsPerSec = 56;
> x.WindowSizeInMsecs = 60000;
> x.WindowSizeinBytes = 10000000;
>
> setsockopt(fd, SOCK_RDM, RM_RATE_WINDOW_SIZE, &x, sizeof(x));
>
> Default is sending at 56Kbps with a buffer of 10 Megabytes and buffering for a minute.
That's a very large buffer for a socket. It would be better to use the usual
auto shrinking/increasing mechanisms.
> B. FEC mode
>
> struct pgm_fec_info x;
>
> x.FECBlocksize = 255;
> x.FECProActivePackets = 0;
> x.FECGroupSize = 0;
> x.fFECOnDemandParityEnabled = 1;
>
> setsockopt(fd, SOCK_RDM, RM_FEC_MODE, &x, sizeof(x));
Is that mode really needed?
> /* Socket API structures (established by M$DN) */
> struct pgm_receiver_stats {
> u64 NumODataPacketsReceived; /* Number of ODATA (original) sequences */
It's difficult to maintain 64 bit counters on 32bit hosts on all targets.
But I guess it would be ok to only fill in 32bit in this case.
-Andi
--
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-22 17:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-18 17:58 Add PGM protocol support to the IP stack Christoph Lameter
2010-03-18 21:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-19 17:18 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-19 21:53 ` David Miller
2010-03-19 22:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-22 14:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-22 14:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-22 16:36 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-22 16:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-22 17:43 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2010-03-22 18:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-22 18:53 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-22 19:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-26 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-27 13:11 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-27 16:54 ` Martin Sustrik
2010-03-29 14:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-29 15:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-29 21:43 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-29 23:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-30 18:12 ` Christoph Lameter
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