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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/migrate: wait for folio refcount during longterm pin migration
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 09:46:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878qafix71.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51168a90-d6ad-4429-8043-3dfdd81cb9a3@kernel.org> (David Hildenbrand's message of "Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:00:28 +0200")

"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org> writes:

> On 4/21/26 11:19, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Hi, John,
>> 
>> John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This adds a bounded sleep to migration so that FOLL_LONGTERM pinning can
>>> wait for transient folio references to drain, instead of failing after a
>>> fixed number of retries. The wait uses a one-second timeout. An
>> 
>> Is the one-second timeout appropriate for all users?  Do some users
>> prefer fail-fast behavior instead?  If so, should we add another FOLL
>> flag to support a timed wait?
>
> We should avoid a FOLL flag to affect that behavior. FOLL_LONGTERM
> already implies that things could take a while.

Yes.  I am just not sure whether one-second is OK for all users.

> So we have real examples were failing is even desirable? :)

Hi, John,

Could you do some research on this?

---
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

      reply	other threads:[~2026-04-22  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-10  3:23 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/migrate: wait for folio refcount during longterm pin migration John Hubbard
2026-04-10  3:23 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm: wake up folio refcount waiters on folio_put() John Hubbard
2026-04-10  3:23 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm/migrate: wait for folio refcount during longterm pin migration John Hubbard
2026-04-21  5:57   ` Alistair Popple
2026-04-21  9:21   ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-21  5:52 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] " Alistair Popple
2026-04-21  9:19 ` Huang, Ying
2026-04-21 16:00   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-22  1:46     ` Huang, Ying [this message]

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