From: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2024 15:13:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878r3x3cl8.fsf@somnus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZcIyWJxeLy4GaTbM@localhost.localdomain>
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
> Le Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 12:36:55PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
>> Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>> > Le Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 03:37:41PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
>> >> +/*
>> >> + * Returns true, if there is nothing to be propagated to the next level
>> >> + *
>> >> + * @data->firstexp is set to expiry of first gobal event of the (top level of
>> >> + * the) hierarchy, but only when hierarchy is completely idle.
>> >> + *
>> >> + * This is the only place where the group event expiry value is set.
>> >> + */
>> >> +static
>> >> +bool tmigr_update_events(struct tmigr_group *group, struct tmigr_group *child,
>> >> + struct tmigr_walk *data, union tmigr_state childstate,
>> >> + union tmigr_state groupstate)
>> >> +{
>> >> + struct tmigr_event *evt, *first_childevt;
>> >> + bool walk_done, remote = data->remote;
>> >> + bool leftmost_change = false;
>> >> + u64 nextexp;
>> >> +
>> >> + if (child) {
>> >> + raw_spin_lock(&child->lock);
>> >> + raw_spin_lock_nested(&group->lock, SINGLE_DEPTH_NESTING);
>> >> +
>> >> + if (childstate.active) {
>> >> + walk_done = true;
>> >> + goto unlock;
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> + first_childevt = tmigr_next_groupevt(child);
>> >> + nextexp = child->next_expiry;
>> >> + evt = &child->groupevt;
>> >> + } else {
>> >> + nextexp = data->nextexp;
>> >> +
>> >> + first_childevt = evt = data->evt;
>> >> +
>> >> + /*
>> >> + * Walking the hierarchy is required in any case when a
>> >> + * remote expiry was done before. This ensures to not lose
>> >> + * already queued events in non active groups (see section
>> >> + * "Required event and timerqueue update after a remote
>> >> + * expiry" in the documentation at the top).
>> >> + *
>> >> + * The two call sites which are executed without a remote expiry
>> >> + * before, are not prevented from propagating changes through
>> >> + * the hierarchy by the return:
>> >> + * - When entering this path by tmigr_new_timer(), @evt->ignore
>> >> + * is never set.
>> >> + * - tmigr_inactive_up() takes care of the propagation by
>> >> + * itself and ignores the return value. But an immediate
>> >> + * return is required because nothing has to be done in this
>> >> + * level as the event could be ignored.
>> >> + */
>> >> + if (evt->ignore && !remote)
>> >> + return true;
>> >> +
>> >> + raw_spin_lock(&group->lock);
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> + if (nextexp == KTIME_MAX) {
>> >> + evt->ignore = true;
>> >> +
>> >> + /*
>> >> + * When the next child event could be ignored (nextexp is
>> >> + * KTIME_MAX) and there was no remote timer handling before or
>> >> + * the group is already active, there is no need to walk the
>> >> + * hierarchy even if there is a parent group.
>> >> + *
>> >> + * The other way round: even if the event could be ignored, but
>> >> + * if a remote timer handling was executed before and the group
>> >> + * is not active, walking the hierarchy is required to not miss
>> >> + * an enqueued timer in the non active group. The enqueued timer
>> >> + * of the group needs to be propagated to a higher level to
>> >> + * ensure it is handled.
>> >> + */
>> >> + if (!remote || groupstate.active) {
>> >> + walk_done = true;
>> >> + goto unlock;
>> >
>> > So if the current tmc going inactive was the migrator for the whole hierarchy
>> > and it is reaching here the top-level, this assumes that if none of this tmc's
>> > groups have a timer, then it can just return. But what if the top level has
>> > timers from other children? Who is going to handle them then?
>> >
>> > Should this be "goto check_toplvl" instead?
>> >
>>
>> Simply replacing this goto will not work. Then we chould end up with a
>> 'data->firstexp' set even if we do not want to have it (when remote is
>> not set).
>
> Hmm, but the (groupstate.migrator == TMIGR_NONE) condition should prevent that,
> no?
>
When remote is not set, and the group is not active (but it's not top
level), walk_done will be set to true. Then goto check_toplevel. There
walk_done and the groupstate migrator check is both true. But it is not
top level... and the next goto unlock will also not happen and
data->firstexp will be set. No?
>>
>> There is another issue in here. When the event could be ignored and it
>> is propagated because of e.g. remote timer handling, then the timerqueue
>> dance is done nevertheless. It's not a big problem (as the ignore flag
>> is set and event is removed of queue when revisting the timer queue),
>> but its obviously more work than it is required to have.
>
> Right. I guess it doesn't hurt to delete it from the timerqueue if present and
> then update group->next_expiry accordingly. But it's certainly not useful
> to requeue it :-)
>
This would be the plan to keep the delete but drop the requeue in this
case.
With those two things, the tmigr_update_events() wants to be changed a
little more.
Thanks
> Thanks.
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> >> + }
>> >> + } else {
>> >> + /*
>> >> + * An update of @evt->cpu and @evt->ignore flag is required only
>> >> + * when @child is set (the child is equal or higher than lvl0),
>> >> + * but it doesn't matter if it is written once more to the per
>> >> + * CPU event; make the update unconditional.
>> >> + */
>> >> + evt->cpu = first_childevt->cpu;
>> >> + evt->ignore = false;
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> + walk_done = !group->parent;
>> >> +
>> >> + /*
>> >> + * If the child event is already queued in the group, remove it from the
>> >> + * queue when the expiry time changed only.
>> >> + */
>> >> + if (timerqueue_node_queued(&evt->nextevt)) {
>> >> + if (evt->nextevt.expires == nextexp)
>> >> + goto check_toplvl;
>> >> +
>> >> + leftmost_change = timerqueue_getnext(&group->events) == &evt->nextevt;
>> >> + if (!timerqueue_del(&group->events, &evt->nextevt))
>> >> + WRITE_ONCE(group->next_expiry, KTIME_MAX);
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> + evt->nextevt.expires = nextexp;
>> >> +
>> >> + if (timerqueue_add(&group->events, &evt->nextevt)) {
>> >> + leftmost_change = true;
>> >> + WRITE_ONCE(group->next_expiry, nextexp);
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> +check_toplvl:
>> >> + if (walk_done && (groupstate.migrator == TMIGR_NONE)) {
>> >> + /*
>> >> + * Nothing to do when first event didn't changed and update was
>> >> + * done during remote timer handling.
>> >> + */
>> >> + if (remote && !leftmost_change)
>> >> + goto unlock;
>> >> + /*
>> >> + * The top level group is idle and it has to be ensured the
>> >> + * global timers are handled in time. (This could be optimized
>> >> + * by keeping track of the last global scheduled event and only
>> >> + * arming it on the CPU if the new event is earlier. Not sure if
>> >> + * its worth the complexity.)
>> >> + */
>> >> + data->firstexp = tmigr_next_groupevt_expires(group);
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> +unlock:
>> >> + raw_spin_unlock(&group->lock);
>> >> +
>> >> + if (child)
>> >> + raw_spin_unlock(&child->lock);
>> >> +
>> >> + return walk_done;
>> >> +}
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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-15 14:37 [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 01/20] timers: Restructure get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 02/20] timers: Split out get next timer interrupt Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 03/20] timers: Move marking timer bases idle into tick_nohz_stop_tick() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:45 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 21:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19 8:52 ` [PATCH v10a] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 22:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 10:48 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 11:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 12:02 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 12:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 14:00 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 15:23 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 04/20] timers: Optimization for timer_base_try_to_set_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:48 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 22:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 05/20] timers: Introduce add_timer() variants which modify timer flags Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 17:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:50 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 06/20] workqueue: Use global variant for add_timer() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 07/20] timers: add_timer_on(): Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 08/20] timers: Ease code in run_local_timers() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 09/20] timers: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-23 14:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 10/20] timers: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 11/20] timers: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers separately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 12/20] timers: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 13/20] timers: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 16:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19 16:57 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/20] timers: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 13:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/20] timers: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/20] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/20] timers: Introduce function to check timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-25 14:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-28 15:58 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 16:45 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-26 12:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-27 22:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-29 10:50 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 22:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 13:32 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 13:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-01-29 1:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 17:56 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 21:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-31 11:19 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 14:59 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 15:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:15 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 20:52 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 13:29 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 10:06 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 10:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-05 15:59 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:03 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 11:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:36 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 13:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 14:13 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen [this message]
2024-02-06 14:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 19/20] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 16:47 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 20/20] timers: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 20:58 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-02 11:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Christian Loehle
2024-02-01 15:03 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
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