From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD67BC433EF for ; Mon, 23 May 2022 21:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229850AbiEWVox (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 May 2022 17:44:53 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:59932 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229473AbiEWVop (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 May 2022 17:44:45 -0400 Received: from galois.linutronix.de (Galois.linutronix.de [193.142.43.55]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCEFBD5E; Mon, 23 May 2022 14:44:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Gleixner DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linutronix.de; s=2020; t=1653342283; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=nxgVXilPvGv5Ur4KZ/tA/GNYYCdYt1Yn3s1uc6YEbqk=; b=nbcRQ3tNutokS0GPtDC5vVXNWdbB0DViz4NQZETExW9xKhmYEK4VVN4dqwY544jEgVly3q LMolciIGiGhpeP/Wc1nVc/i84lSUPnNWcZY/ypc1bqrO7XO28xjtY6UWunIu4EkTpQhrtJ NnPtXeG9q+TEDBbL02I2RLQE6kDuzLdZMbjV2yt7w2yPjKNcp6e9cuvN8fuFj2DwSMtz+p bNXtxu3+qEq7MnmXv4o35nf1Epgy+swt2oA0s/rieEaJq4iT9WWgfAIhhkZ0/u5BpZ9AJB YvcLLlMe+OcWpCh8aNMzL0Xsxyp03cwIyRUCwjpGvQb1XopRnmiC2zSfhOM/Sg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linutronix.de; s=2020e; t=1653342283; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=nxgVXilPvGv5Ur4KZ/tA/GNYYCdYt1Yn3s1uc6YEbqk=; b=7R4pFFYXUqq4lTX80SwjoCLmA6Llcc8UbK8uV+WywIygHUKWyGx/PcDpSGbfutH23DT1oF /prpR3J/iiGbJtBQ== To: J Lovejoy , Max Mehl , LKML Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Christoph Hellwig , linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [patch 0/9] scripts/spdxcheck: Better statistics and exclude handling In-Reply-To: <97d8beb2-db33-1e50-eadb-6ac8d650f044@jilayne.com> References: <20220516101901.475557433@linutronix.de> <1652706350.kh41opdwg4.2220@fsfe.org> <87zgjhpawr.ffs@tglx> <87wnelpam3.ffs@tglx> <1652775347.3cr9dmk5qv.2220@fsfe.org> <8735h7ltre.ffs@tglx> <97d8beb2-db33-1e50-eadb-6ac8d650f044@jilayne.com> Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 23:44:42 +0200 Message-ID: <878rqr2ab9.ffs@tglx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, May 23 2022 at 10:11, J. Lovejoy wrote: > On 5/17/22 3:43 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > I think the discussion here is hitting upon the "inconvenience" of the > lack of black/white rules in the law (as to what is copyrightable) > versus the convenience of downstream recipients of code who want to be > sure they have proper rights (which mixes in the guidance/rules of > Reuse, tooling, etc.). Correct. > I think some rules in terms of files that are clearly not copyrightable > can be implemented in various tooling (hopefully, with the guidance of a > lawyer steeped in copyright law), and I agree that putting a license (by > way of an SPDX identifier or any other way for that matter) on such > files is neither a good use of time nor a good idea (from the > perspective of being inaccurate as to the need for a license and thus > sending the wrong impression). That being said, there will not be a way > to make clear cut rules for everything, without involving a judge. > Sorry! That's just how the law works (and we actually often don't want > black/white lines in the law, actually). > > I can see a policy of, "when it's not clear (as to copyrightability), > then add a license", though. No argument here, but trivial things like an include which file includes another include file are pretty clear IMO and we really should make our mind up on those. Even a header file which contains a single function declaration is questionable at best, but yes it's hard to put a hard line on those. Thanks, tglx