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From: Sergei Organov <osv@javad.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #4]
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:32:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878xrecypp.fsf@javad.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16835.1141936162@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com> (David Howells's message of "Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:29:22 +0000")

David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> writes:

> The attached patch documents the Linux kernel's memory barriers.
>
> I've updated it from the comments I've been given.

Did you miss the following comment (you've left corresponding text
intact), or do you think I'm wrong:

David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> writes:
[...]
> +=======================================
> +LINUX KERNEL COMPILER BARRIER FUNCTIONS
> +=======================================
> +
> +The Linux kernel has an explicit compiler barrier function that prevents the
> +compiler from moving the memory accesses either side of it to the other side:
> +
> +	barrier();
> +
> +This has no direct effect on the CPU, which may then reorder things however it
> +wishes.
> +
> +In addition, accesses to "volatile" memory locations and volatile asm
> +statements act as implicit compiler barriers.

This last statement seems to contradict with what GCC manual says about
volatile asm statements:

"You can prevent an `asm' instruction from being deleted by writing the
keyword `volatile' after the `asm'. [...]
The `volatile' keyword indicates that the instruction has important
side-effects.  GCC will not delete a volatile `asm' if it is reachable.
(The instruction can still be deleted if GCC can prove that
control-flow will never reach the location of the instruction.)  *Note
that even a volatile `asm' instruction can be moved relative to other
code, including across jump instructions.*"

I think that volatile memory locations aren't compiler barriers either,
-- GCC only guarantees that it won't remove the access and that it won't
re-arrange the access w.r.t. other *volatile* accesses. On the other
hand, barrier() indeed prevents *any* memory access from being moved
across the barrier.

-- Sergei.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-13 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-09 20:29 [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #4] David Howells
2006-03-09 23:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 23:45   ` Michael Buesch
2006-03-09 23:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-10  0:07       ` Michael Buesch
2006-03-10  0:48   ` Alan Cox
2006-03-10  0:54     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-10 15:19   ` David Howells
2006-03-11  0:01     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-10  5:28 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 11:10   ` David Howells
2006-03-15 11:51     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 13:47       ` David Howells
2006-03-15 23:21         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-12 17:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-14 21:26   ` David Howells
2006-03-14 21:48     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-14 23:59       ` David Howells
2006-03-15  0:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-15  1:19           ` David Howells
2006-03-15  1:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-15  1:25           ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15  0:54         ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-13 12:32 ` Sergei Organov [this message]
2006-03-14 20:31   ` David Howells
2006-03-14 21:11     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-03-15  9:09       ` Sergei Organov
2006-03-15  9:04     ` Sergei Organov
2006-03-14 20:35   ` David Howells
2006-03-15  9:11     ` Sergei Organov
2006-03-15 14:23 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #5] David Howells
     [not found]   ` <20060315200956.4a9e2cb3.akpm@osdl.org>
2006-03-16 11:50     ` David Howells
2006-03-16 17:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17  1:20         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-16 23:17   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-16 23:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17  1:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-17  5:32         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17  6:23           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-23 18:34     ` David Howells
2006-03-23 19:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-23 22:26       ` Paul E. McKenney

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