From: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
To: Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 30/32] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:43:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5qfmysg.fsf@somnus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6knmzco.fsf@somnus>
Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de> writes:
> Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> writes:
>
>> On 2023-12-01 10:26:52 [+0100], Anna-Maria Behnsen wrote:
>>
>> This whole thing confuses me.
>> If the CPU goes offline, it needs to get removed from the migration
>> hierarchy and this is it. Everything else is handled by the migrator. If
>> the migrator is going offline then it needs wake a random CPU and make
>> sure it takes the migrator role. I am confused by the whole ::wakeup and
>> ::wakeup_recalc thingy.
>>
>
> wakeup_recalc is required to indicate, that the CPU was chosen as the
> new migrator CPU when the last active CPU in timer migration hierarchy
> went offline.
>
> When a CPU goes idle and it is the last active CPU in the timer
> migration hierarchy, it has to make sure that it wakes up in time to
> handle the first event of the hierarchy. On the normal idle path this is
> not a problem as the value of the first event of the hierarchy is
> returned. But when an IRQ occurs on this idle CPU, the timers are
> revisited again. But then it is also required that the first event of
> the timer migration hierarchy is still considered, as the CPU cannot
> make sure another CPU will handle it. So the value is stored on idle
> path to tmc->wakeup. Otherwise every idle CPU has to walk the hierarchy
> again after an IRQ to make sure nothing is lost as the CPU doesn't know
> what happend in the meantime. I'm aware, that it is possible that
> several CPUs have the same wakeup value when there is no new first event
> and if the hierarchy is idle and some CPUs become active and go idle
> directly again. But if we want to cover this, we need a single point
> with the first event and with the last migrator information and I'm
> quite sure that it will not scale.
>
I forgot to explain one thing: A CPU does remote expiry and it is
possible that the CPU is idle in timer migration hierarchy. Therefore
the wakeup value is updated at the end of remote handling with the new
first event of the timer migration hierarchy unconditionally.
Thanks,
Anna-Maria
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-12 11:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-01 9:26 [PATCH v9 00/32] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 01/32] tick-sched: Fix function names in comments Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 13:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 02/32] tick/sched: Cleanup confusing variables Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 03/32] tick-sched: Warn when next tick seems to be in the past Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 13:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 04/32] tracing/timers: Enhance timer_start tracepoint Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 13:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 05/32] tracing/timers: Add tracepoint for tracking timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 13:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 06/32] timers: Do not IPI for deferrable timers Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 07/32] timers: Move store of next event into __next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 08/32] timers: Clarify check in forward_timer_base() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 09/32] timers: Split out forward timer base functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 10/32] timers: Use already existing function for forwarding timer base Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 11/32] timers: Rework idle logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-20 14:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 12/32] timers: Fix nextevt calculation when no timers are pending Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-04 16:03 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-05 11:53 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-10 0:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-12-12 13:21 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-12 13:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-12-20 14:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-12-20 15:59 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 13/32] timers: Restructure get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 14/32] timers: Split out get next timer interrupt Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 15/32] timers: Move marking timer bases idle into tick_nohz_stop_tick() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 16/32] timers: Optimization for timer_base_try_to_set_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-04 17:52 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-05 12:05 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 17/32] timers: Introduce add_timer() variants which modify timer flags Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-05 18:28 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-06 9:24 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 18/32] workqueue: Use global variant for add_timer() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 19/32] timers: add_timer_on(): Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-05 18:29 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-06 9:57 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-06 10:26 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-06 10:46 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 20/32] timers: Ease code in run_local_timers() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 21/32] timers: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-05 18:29 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 22/32] timers: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-05 21:11 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-06 10:23 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 23/32] timers: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers separately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-06 9:47 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-07 10:12 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 24/32] timers: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-06 10:20 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 25/32] timers: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-06 10:44 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-07 10:27 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 26/32] timers: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 27/32] timers: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-06 10:58 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 28/32] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 29/32] timers: Introduce function to check timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 30/32] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-06 16:35 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-08 9:01 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-07 18:09 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-08 10:31 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-08 18:18 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-11 18:04 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-12 11:31 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-12 11:43 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen [this message]
2023-12-12 15:59 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-12 12:14 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-12 14:52 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-12 17:08 ` Sebastian Siewior
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 31/32] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-01 9:26 ` [PATCH v9 32/32] timers: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2023-12-07 12:11 ` [PATCH v9 00/32] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
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