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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Tero Kristo <tero.kristo@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH hid v11 14/14] Documentation: add HID-BPF docs
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 07:44:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a65id7i9.fsf@meer.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1k0QUxp38OhKg+1@debian.me>

Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com> writes:

> The wordings are somewhat confusing, so here's the alternative:

I've been kind of ignoring these editorial comments of yours, but this
bit of bikeshedding kind of exceeded my threshold.

> diff --git a/Documentation/hid/hid-bpf.rst b/Documentation/hid/hid-bpf.rst
> index ba35aa2e2ba836..c59bce4b9cf214 100644
> --- a/Documentation/hid/hid-bpf.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/hid/hid-bpf.rst
> @@ -27,88 +27,89 @@ Assuming you have a joystick that is getting older, it is common to see it
>  wobbling around its neutral point. This is usually filtered at the application
>  level by adding a *dead zone* for this specific axis.
>  
> -With HID-BPF, we can apply this filtering in the kernel directly so userspace
> -does not get woken up when nothing else is happening on the input controller.
> +With HID-BPF, the filter can be applied in the kernel directly so that
> +userspace does not get woken up when nothing else is happening on the input
> +controller.

How does a shift to the passive voice help here?  What is the problem
you are trying to solve?

> -Of course, given that this dead zone is specific to an individual device, we
> -can not create a generic fix for all of the same joysticks. Adding a custom
> -kernel API for this (e.g. by adding a sysfs entry) does not guarantee this new
> -kernel API will be broadly adopted and maintained.
> +Of course, given that dead zone filter is device-specific, it is not possible

                       ^
Missing article -------+

> +to create a generic fix for all of the same joysticks. Adding a custom
> +kernel API for this (e.g. by adding a sysfs entry) does not guarantee that
> +the API will be broadly adopted and maintained.
>  
> -HID-BPF allows the userspace program to load the program itself, ensuring we
> -only load the custom API when we have a user.
> +HID-BPF allows the userspace program to load the program itself, ensuring that
> +custom API is only needed for edge cases (like esoteric joysticks)

That (beyond the missing article) changes the meaning of the sentence;
it no longer really makes sense.

I'll stop here.

Bagas, I've asked this several times: *please* stop trying to tell other
contributors what to do and, instead, focus on contributing something
useful yourself.  You seem to have the energy and interest to do
worthwhile stuff - please do that!

Thanks,

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-26 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-25  9:34 [PATCH hid v11 00/14] Introduce eBPF support for HID devices Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 01/14] HID: Kconfig: split HID support and hid-core compilation Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-29 13:55   ` kernel test robot
2022-10-29 17:57   ` kernel test robot
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 02/14] HID: initial BPF implementation Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25 22:52   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-10-27  9:11     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 03/14] selftests: add tests for the HID-bpf initial implementation Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 04/14] HID: bpf jmp table: simplify the logic of cleaning up programs Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-28  3:13   ` kernel test robot
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 05/14] HID: bpf: allocate data memory for device_event BPF programs Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-29 13:45   ` kernel test robot
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 06/14] selftests/hid: add test to change the report size Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 07/14] HID: bpf: introduce hid_hw_request() Benjamin Tissoires
2022-11-02 12:11   ` Dan Carpenter
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 08/14] selftests/hid: add tests for bpf_hid_hw_request Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 09/14] HID: bpf: allow to change the report descriptor Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-31 15:22   ` kernel test robot
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 10/14] selftests/hid: add report descriptor fixup tests Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 11/14] selftests/hid: Add a test for BPF_F_INSERT_HEAD Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 12/14] samples/hid: add new hid BPF example Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 13/14] samples/hid: add Surface Dial example Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-25  9:34 ` [PATCH hid v11 14/14] Documentation: add HID-BPF docs Benjamin Tissoires
2022-10-26 13:21   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-26 13:44     ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2022-11-04 11:41 ` [PATCH hid v11 00/14] Introduce eBPF support for HID devices Tero Kristo

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