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From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Linux Next Mailing List <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>,
	Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] linux-next: Tree for Dec 16 (drm_panel & intel_panel)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 18:06:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a77rym11.fsf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHp75Vd28j5_xexHyXacRaSv=VRkmBLrSh=w2FE8nmAGWdAo6A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:28 PM Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 1:56 PM Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com> wrote:
>
>> > I think the proper one is to have s/IS_ENABLED/IS_REACHABLE/.
>> > It fixes issue for me.
>>
>> As discussed off-line, this will allow silently building and linking a
>> configuration that's actually broken. (No backlight support despite
>> expectations.)
>
> In my case I have deliberately compile backlight as a module to be
> used exclusively with backlight-gpio which has nothing to do with
> i915. I dunno if backlight is a MUST dependency for i915.

It's not a required dependency, all combinations of i915 and backlight
are fine, *except* i915=y, backlight=m. This can be achieved with:

	depends on BACKLIGHT_CLASS_DEVICE || BACKLIGHT_CLASS_DEVICE=n

BR,
Jani.

>
> From my perspective the original commit, with all good that it
> provides, should not break previously working configurations. Though
> we might argue if my "working" kernel configuration had been broken in
> the first place...
>
> Just my 2 cents, though.
>
>> IMO deep down the problem is that we "select" BACKLIGHT_CLASS_DEVICE all
>> over the place, while we should "depends on" it. Everything else is just
>> duct tape that allows configurations where built-in code calls backlight
>> symbols in modules. It used to be more about an interaction with ACPI,
>> now we've added DRM_PANEL to the mix.
>>
>> I've proposed a fix five years ago [1]. That's what it takes to fix
>> these recurring failures for good. I'm not really all that interested in
>> the whack-a-mole with the hacks.
>
> Agree with this. The root cause must be fixed once and for all.
> I guess it should be a logical continuation of Sam's series.
>
>> [1] http://lore.kernel.org/r/1413580403-16225-1-git-send-email-jani.nikula@intel.com

-- 
Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Graphics Center

      reply	other threads:[~2019-12-17 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-16  5:22 linux-next: Tree for Dec 16 Stephen Rothwell
2019-12-16 16:25 ` linux-next: Tree for Dec 16 (drm_panel & intel_panel) Randy Dunlap
2019-12-17  5:42   ` Sam Ravnborg
2019-12-17  6:37     ` Randy Dunlap
2019-12-17 11:52       ` Steven Price
2019-12-17 14:02         ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-12-17 15:28           ` [Intel-gfx] " Jani Nikula
2019-12-17 15:49             ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-12-17 16:06               ` Jani Nikula [this message]

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