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* Re: ADSL vs Leased line
       [not found] ` <20030216215008$0db5@gated-at.bofh.it>
@ 2003-02-17 20:38   ` Florian Weimer
  2003-02-18  9:01     ` [DEFINITELY OFF-TOPIC] " Henning P. Schmiedehausen
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From: Florian Weimer @ 2003-02-17 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com> writes:

> A leased line is guaranteed bandwidth,

Not at all.  Welcome to the wonderful world of ATM Traffic Management.

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* [DEFINITELY OFF-TOPIC] Re: ADSL vs Leased line
  2003-02-17 20:38   ` ADSL vs Leased line Florian Weimer
@ 2003-02-18  9:01     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Henning P. Schmiedehausen @ 2003-02-18  9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:

>John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com> writes:

>> A leased line is guaranteed bandwidth,

>Not at all.  Welcome to the wonderful world of ATM Traffic Management.

That's the very point John was trying to make. A leased line in the
classic sense (E1/T1/ISDN) _is_ guranteed bandwith. You get 64k, 128k,
1920k, 1984k 2048k [1] guranteed, fixed bandwith synched with a master
clock.

And: bandwidth on a leased line != IP bandwidth. And with DSL lines
(which are either HDLC over copper (e.g. Lucent HST-DST) or simply
ATM-25 over copper (Cisco 14xx / Lucent Cellpipes) you can even get
both.

So your "wonderful world of ATM traffic management" is only correct
for some flavours of DSL lines.

	Regards
		Henning

Let's kill this thread. :-)

[1] 1920k = 1 slot for network management,
            1 slot for connection management, 
            30 channels data
    1984k = 1 slot for connection management,
            31 channels data (G.704)
    2048k = 32 channels data (G.703)

    A least in Germany, a "2 MBit leased line" can come in any of
    these flavours.

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