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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Anna-Maria Behnsen" <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Guangbo Cui" <2407018371@qq.com>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 02/14] rust: hrtimer: introduce hrtimer support
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2025 19:25:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bjutdefk.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-ks9kLZ7LCTW+W4jhUqmF1ypJ7i56oSizdFV-1Ks5DiCoKsA@mail.gmail.com> (Tamir Duberstein's message of "Fri, 21 Feb 2025 09:21:14 -0500")

"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 8:29 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
>>
>> > "Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 4:19 PM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> "Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> > On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 8:29 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >>> >> +    /// Get a pointer to the contained `bindings::hrtimer`.
>> >>> >> +    ///
>> >>> >> +    /// # Safety
>> >>> >> +    ///
>> >>> >> +    /// `ptr` must point to a live allocation of at least the size of `Self`.
>> >>> >> +    unsafe fn raw_get(ptr: *const Self) -> *mut bindings::hrtimer {
>> >>> >> +        // SAFETY: The field projection to `timer` does not go out of bounds,
>> >>> >> +        // because the caller of this function promises that `ptr` points to an
>> >>> >> +        // allocation of at least the size of `Self`.
>> >>> >> +        unsafe { Opaque::raw_get(core::ptr::addr_of!((*ptr).timer)) }
>> >>> >> +    }
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Can you help me understand why the various functions here operate on
>> >>> > *const Self? I understand the need to obtain a C pointer to interact
>> >>> > with bindings, but I don't understand why we're dealing in raw
>> >>> > pointers to the abstraction rather than references.
>> >>>
>> >>> We cannot reference the `bindings::hrtimer` without wrapping it in
>> >>> `Opaque`. This would be the primary reason. At other times, we cannot
>> >>> produce references because we might not be able to prove that we satisfy
>> >>> the safety requirements for turning a pointer into a reference. If we
>> >>> are just doing offset arithmetic anyway, we don't need a reference.
>> >>
>> >> Why do we have a pointer, rather than a reference, to Self in the
>> >> first place? I think this is the key thing I don't understand.
>> >
>> > Perhaps it makes more sense if you look at the context. One of the entry
>> > points to `HrTimer::raw_get` is via `<ArcHrTimerHandle as
>> > HrTimerHandle>::cancel`. This user facing method takes `&mut self`. The
>> > handle contains an arc to a type that contains a `Timer` and implements
>> > `HasHrTImer`. To get to the timer, we need to do pointer manipulation.
>> > We only know how to get the `Timer` field via the `OFFSET`. The natural
>> > return value from the offset operation is a raw pointer. Rather than
>> > convert back to a reference, we stay in pointer land when we call
>> > `HrTimer::raw_cancel`, because we need a pointer to the
>> > `bindings::hrtimer` anyway, not a reference.
>>
>> I changed `HasHrTimer::start` to take a reference, and I think that
>> makes sense 👍 Taking an `impl AsRef` does not work out when `Self` is
>> `Pin<&T>`. I'll go over the whole thing and see of other places could
>> benefit.
>
> Can you elaborate please? Pin<&T>::get_ref returns &T, which gets you
> to the AsRef you need, no?

Right, that works. But if I pass in &self it's not really needed. You
can see for yourself in next version.

Hopefully I did not break any provenance rules.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-22 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2025-02-18 13:27 ` [PATCH v8 00/14] hrtimer Rust API Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 01/14] rust: time: Add Ktime::from_ns() Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-19 11:58     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-19 14:53       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 02/14] rust: hrtimer: introduce hrtimer support Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 17:04     ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-20 21:18       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 21:37         ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21  8:19           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 13:04             ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 13:17               ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 14:19                 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21  8:36           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 13:14             ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 13:28             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 14:21               ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-22 18:25                 ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-02-22 18:41                   ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 14:40               ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-21 14:46                 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 15:19                   ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-21 19:46                     ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 22:37                       ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-22  1:08                         ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-22  1:38                           ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-22  9:25                     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22 11:40                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22 21:25                         ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-20 23:46     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:03       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:15         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 11:05           ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21 12:17             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22  9:37               ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-22 11:27                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21  9:05       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 11:29       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-21 11:44         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 03/14] rust: sync: add `Arc::as_ptr` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:18     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 04/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `HrTimerPointer` for `Arc` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 05/14] rust: hrtimer: allow timer restart from timer handler Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:47     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:09       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:15         ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 06/14] rust: hrtimer: add `UnsafeHrTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:18     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 07/14] rust: hrtimer: add `hrtimer::ScopedHrTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 08/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeHrTimerPointer` for `Pin<&T>` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 09/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeHrTimerPointer` for `Pin<&mut T>` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 10/14] rust: alloc: add `Box::into_pin` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:20     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:10       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 11/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `HrTimerPointer` for `Pin<Box<T>>` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 12/14] rust: hrtimer: add `HrTimerMode` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:23     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:17       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:19         ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21 11:39           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22  9:34             ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 13/14] rust: hrtimer: add clocksource selection through `ClockSource` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:27     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:29       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:22         ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 14/14] rust: hrtimer: add maintainer entry Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-19 11:02   ` [PATCH v8 00/14] hrtimer Rust API Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 21:03     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-21  8:40       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 11:20         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-22 13:04           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-22 13:10             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-05 17:34             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-20 22:35   ` Frederic Weisbecker

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