From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
syzbot+5c54bd3eb218bb595aa9@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 01/20] posix-timers: Prevent RT livelock in itimer_delete()
Date: Thu, 04 May 2023 20:20:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkj03qmq.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZFPmKtFGPUQkeDEd@localhost.localdomain>
On Thu, May 04 2023 at 19:06, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> Le Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 08:48:56PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner a écrit :
>> itimer_delete() has a retry loop when the timer is concurrently expired. On
>> non-RT kernels this just spin-waits until the timer callback has
>> completed. On RT kernels this is a potential livelock when the exiting task
>> preempted the hrtimer soft interrupt.
>>
>> This only affects hrtimer based timers as Posix CPU timers cannot be
>> concurrently expired. For CONFIG_POSIX_CPU_TIMERS_TASK_WORK=y this is
>> obviously impossible as the task cannot run task work and exit at the same
>> time. The CONFIG_POSIX_CPU_TIMERS_TASK_WORK=n (only non-RT) is prevented
>> because interrupts are disabled.
>
> But the owner of the timer is not the same as the target of the timer, right?
>
> Though I seem to remember that we forbid setting a timer to a target outside
> the current process, in which case the owner and the target are the same at
> this exit stage. But I can't remember what enforces that permission in
> pid_for_clock()..
The owner of the timer is always the one which needs to find the entity
to synchronize on, whether that's the right hrtimer base or the task
which runs the expiry code.
wait_for_running_timer() is taking that into account:
- The hrtimer timer based posix timers lock the hrtimer base expiry
lock on the base to which the timer is currently associated
- Posix CPU timers can be armed on a differnet process (only per
thread timers are restricted to currents threadgroup) but the
wait_for_running() callback "knows" how to find that process:
When the timer is moved to the expiry list it gets:
cputimer->firing = 1;
rcu_assign_pointer(ctmr->handling, current);
and the wait for running side does:
rcu_read_lock()
tsk = rcu_dereference(timr->it.cpu.handling);
....
mutex_lock(&tsk->posix_cputimers_work.mutex);
See collect_timerqueue(), handle_posix_cpu_timers() and
posix_cpu_timer_wait_running() for details.
commit f7abf14f0001 ("posix-cpu-timers: Implement the missing
timer_wait_running callback") has quite some prose in the changelog.
Thanks,
tglx
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2023-04-25 18:48 [patch 00/20] posix-timers: Fixes and cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:48 ` [patch 01/20] posix-timers: Prevent RT livelock in itimer_delete() Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-04 17:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-05-04 18:20 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-05-05 7:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 19:00 ` [patch v2 " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 20:16 ` [patch v2a " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 10:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:48 ` [patch 02/20] posix-timers: Ensure timer ID search-loop limit is valid Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-05 14:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-05-05 22:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-05 23:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-08 21:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 9:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 21:42 ` [RFD] posix-timers: CRIU woes Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-10 4:36 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-10 8:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 4:12 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11 7:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-11 9:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 10:13 ` David Laight
2023-05-10 8:16 ` Andrey Vagin
2023-05-11 3:17 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11 9:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 9:52 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11 13:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 14:54 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11 15:25 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-12 1:21 ` Andrey Vagin
2023-05-31 17:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 7:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2023-05-10 0:42 ` [patch 02/20] posix-timers: Ensure timer ID search-loop limit is valid Andrey Vagin
2023-05-09 9:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-05-09 12:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 12:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 14:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-01 18:58 ` [patch v2 " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 14:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 03/20] posix-timers: Clarify timer_wait_running() comment Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 9:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 04/20] posix-timers: Cleanup comments about timer ID tracking Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 9:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 05/20] posix-timers: Add comments about timer lookup Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 10:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 06/20] posix-timers: Annotate concurrent access to k_itimer::it_signal Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 11:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] posix-timers: Annotate concurrent access to k_itimer:: It_signal tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 07/20] posix-timers: Set k_itimer::it_signal to NULL on exit() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] posix-timers: Set k_itimer:: It_signal " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 08/20] posix-timers: Remove pointless irqsafe from hash_lock Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 09/20] posix-timers: Split release_posix_timers() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 10/20] posix-timers: Document sys_clock_getres() correctly Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 11/20] posix-timers: Document common_clock_get() correctly Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 12/20] posix-timers: Document sys_clock_getoverrun() Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 13/20] posix-timers: Document sys_clock_settime() permissions in place Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 14/20] posix-timers: Document nanosleep() details Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 12:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 15/20] posix-timers: Add proper comments in do_timer_create() Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 16/20] posix-timers: Comment SIGEV_THREAD_ID properly Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 17/20] posix-timers: Clarify posix_timer_rearm() comment Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 18/20] posix-timers: Clarify posix_timer_fn() comments Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 13:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-01 18:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 19/20] posix-timers: Remove pointless comments Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 20/20] posix-timers: Polish coding style in a few places Thomas Gleixner
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