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From: "Aneesh Kumar K. V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>, Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] introduce sys_syncat to sync a single file system
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 14:24:56 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bp1sziqn.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110303072223.GA28133@elie>

On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 01:22:24 -0600, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Sage Weil wrote:
> 
> >  - On machines with many of mounts, it is not at all uncommon for some of
> >    them to hang (e.g. unresponsive NFS server).  sync(2) will get stuck on
> >    those and may never get to the one you do care about (e.g., /).
> 
> Fun to see this again.
> 
> >  - Some applications (Ceph, dpkg) write lots of data to the file system and
> >    then want to make sure it is flushed to disk.  Calling fsync(2) on each
> >    file introduces unnecessary ordering constraints that result in a large
> >    amount of sub-optimal writeback/flush/commit behavior by the file
> >    system.

This would be useful for 9p server in qemu

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/95497

> 
> FWIW dpkg uses sync_file_range(2) and only syncs the files it needs to
> nowadays.  Other apps in the same position should probably do the
> same.[1][2]
> 
> > This patch introduces a new system call syncat(2) that mimics the existing 
> > *at() interfaces by taking an fd and/or path.  The fd can be either an 
> > open file descriptor or AT_FDCWD, and the pathname can be either a path or 
> > (unlike the usual *at() style interface) NULL.  Only the file system for 
> > the referenced file is synced.
> 
> Sounds like overengineering.  The openat(2) family of calls are meant
> to add flexibility to familiar calls that perform an operation with a
> path relative to the cwd.  To maintain familiarity, they include some
> complication (AT_FDCWD, taking a relative path, and so on).


With some of the proposed changes for VFS [1] some of the *at calls also allows to
specify "" names. So i guess having syncat is useful because now we can
call sync with either an fd or with a name. 

ie 

syncat(fd, "");
or
syncat(AT_FDCWD, "a");

[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems/50773

> 
> Since sync_one_filesystem(2) is new, why not just take a file or
> directory fd (and perhaps flags for future expansion)?  I can use
> open(".", O_NONBLOCK) to get a file descriptor for the cwd.
> 
> > Is this a reasonable approach?  (Patch below is compile tested only.  :)
> 
> Sounds reasonably sane.
> 
> As for the patch: without the pathname arg it becomes much simpler.
> To my inexpert eyes, aside from that it looks good.
> 

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-03  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-03  6:35 [RFC] introduce sys_syncat to sync a single file system Sage Weil
2011-03-03  7:22 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-03  8:54   ` Aneesh Kumar K. V [this message]
2011-03-07 23:17     ` [RFC] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system (v2) Sage Weil
2011-03-08  5:27       ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-10 14:56         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-10 19:28           ` Sage Weil
2011-03-10 19:31       ` [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system Sage Weil
2011-03-10 22:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11  4:44         ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-11 11:01         ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-11 11:55           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 23:45             ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-11 23:56               ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-12  1:53                 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12  2:10                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-12  4:22                     ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 17:32                     ` Greg KH
2011-03-14  1:56                       ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14  4:29                         ` Sage Weil
2011-03-14  9:27                           ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 10:22                             ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-15 10:11                           ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-15 13:00                             ` Sage Weil
2011-03-15 15:56                             ` Andreas Dilger
2011-03-15 16:08                               ` Sage Weil
2011-03-15 20:18                               ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 20:10                         ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 20:29                           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14 21:11                           ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-14 21:20                             ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 23:17                               ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-14 21:22                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-12  0:40               ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-12  1:33                 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12  2:52                   ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-12  3:50                     ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 12:41                       ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-12 18:31                       ` Jeff Garzik
2011-03-14  1:31                         ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14  1:37                           ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-14  1:47                             ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14  1:45                           ` Jeff Garzik
2011-03-14  1:59                             ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 19:28                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-12 19:22                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14  1:38                     ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14  5:52                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-13 20:59         ` Christoph Hellwig

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