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From: Sergei Organov <osv@javad.com>
To: "linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" <linux-os@analogic.com>
Cc: "David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #4]
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:09:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bqw8axbc.fsf@javad.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603141601550.9216@chaos.analogic.com> (linux-os@analogic.com's message of "Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:11:36 -0500")

"linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" <linux-os@analogic.com> writes:

> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, David Howells wrote:
>
>> Sergei Organov <osv@javad.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "You can prevent an `asm' instruction from being deleted by writing the
>>> keyword `volatile' after the `asm'. [...]
>>> The `volatile' keyword indicates that the instruction has important
>>> side-effects.  GCC will not delete a volatile `asm' if it is reachable.
>>> (The instruction can still be deleted if GCC can prove that
>>> control-flow will never reach the location of the instruction.)  *Note
>>> that even a volatile `asm' instruction can be moved relative to other
>>> code, including across jump instructions.*"
>>
>> Ummm... If "asm volatile" statements don't form compiler barriers, then how do
>> you specify a compiler barrier? Or is that what the "memory" bit in:
>>
>> 	#define barrier() __asm__ __volatile__("": : :"memory")
>>
>> does?
>>
>> David
>
> Yeh. This is the problem (restated) that I mentioned the other
> day when you must do a dummy read of the PCI/Bus to flush all
> the writes, to some variable that gcc can't decide isn't
> important. That's why (void)readl(PCI_STATUS) won't work
> (with gcc 3.3.3 anyway).

If it indeed doesn't, then it's a bug in GCC. GCC shouldn't throw
away volatile accesses. I've already quoted the GCC manual for you:

" Less obvious expressions are where something which looks like an access
is used in a void context.  An example would be,

     volatile int *src = SOMEVALUE;
     *src;

 With C, such expressions are rvalues, and as rvalues cause a read of
the object, GCC interprets this as a read of the volatile being pointed
to. "

-- Sergei.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-15  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-09 20:29 [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #4] David Howells
2006-03-09 23:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 23:45   ` Michael Buesch
2006-03-09 23:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-10  0:07       ` Michael Buesch
2006-03-10  0:48   ` Alan Cox
2006-03-10  0:54     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-10 15:19   ` David Howells
2006-03-11  0:01     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-10  5:28 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 11:10   ` David Howells
2006-03-15 11:51     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 13:47       ` David Howells
2006-03-15 23:21         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-12 17:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-14 21:26   ` David Howells
2006-03-14 21:48     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-14 23:59       ` David Howells
2006-03-15  0:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-15  1:19           ` David Howells
2006-03-15  1:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-15  1:25           ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15  0:54         ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-13 12:32 ` Sergei Organov
2006-03-14 20:31   ` David Howells
2006-03-14 21:11     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-03-15  9:09       ` Sergei Organov [this message]
2006-03-15  9:04     ` Sergei Organov
2006-03-14 20:35   ` David Howells
2006-03-15  9:11     ` Sergei Organov
2006-03-15 14:23 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #5] David Howells
     [not found]   ` <20060315200956.4a9e2cb3.akpm@osdl.org>
2006-03-16 11:50     ` David Howells
2006-03-16 17:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17  1:20         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-16 23:17   ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-16 23:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17  1:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-17  5:32         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-17  6:23           ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-23 18:34     ` David Howells
2006-03-23 19:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-23 22:26       ` Paul E. McKenney

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