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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Maciej S. Szmigiero" <maciej.szmigiero@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: QEMU's Hyper-V HV_X64_MSR_EOM is broken with split IRQCHIP
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 15:46:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cyewq2ea.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8cNBTgz3YBDga3c@google.com>

Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
>> 
>> > FYI, QEMU's Hyper-V emulation of HV_X64_MSR_EOM has been broken since QEMU commit
>> > c82d9d43ed ("KVM: Kick resamplefd for split kernel irqchip"), as nothing in KVM
>> > will forward the EOM notification to userspace.  I have no idea if anything in
>> > QEMU besides hyperv_testdev.c cares.
>> 
>> The only VMBus device in QEMU besides the testdev seems to be Hyper-V
>> ballooning driver, Cc: Maciej to check whether it's a real problem for
>> it or not.
>> 
>> >
>> > The bug is reproducible by running the hyperv_connections KVM-Unit-Test with a
>> > split IRQCHIP.
>> 
>> Thanks, I can reproduce the problem too.
>> 
>> >
>> > Hacking QEMU and KVM (see KVM commit 654f1f13ea56 ("kvm: Check irqchip mode before
>> > assign irqfd") as below gets the test to pass.  Assuming that's not a palatable
>> > solution, the other options I can think of would be for QEMU to intercept
>> > HV_X64_MSR_EOM when using a split IRQCHIP, or to modify KVM to do KVM_EXIT_HYPERV_SYNIC
>> > on writes to HV_X64_MSR_EOM with a split IRQCHIP.
>> 
>> AFAIR, Hyper-V message interface is a fairly generic communication
>> mechanism which in theory can be used without interrupts at all: the
>> corresponding SINT can be masked and the guest can be polling for
>> messages, proccessing them and then writing to HV_X64_MSR_EOM to trigger
>> delivery on the next queued message. To support this scenario on the
>> backend, we need to receive HV_X64_MSR_EOM writes regardless of whether
>> irqchip is split or not. (In theory, we can get away without this by
>> just checking if pending messages can be delivered upon each vCPU entry
>> but this can take an undefined amount of time in some scenarios so I
>> guess we're better off with notifications).
>
> Before c82d9d43ed ("KVM: Kick resamplefd for split kernel irqchip"), and without
> a split IRCHIP, QEMU gets notified via eventfd.  On writes to HV_X64_MSR_EOM, KVM
> invokes irq_acked(), i.e. irqfd_resampler_ack(), for all SINT routes.  The eventfd
> signal gets back to sint_ack_handler(), which invokes msg_retry() to re-post the
> message.
>
> I.e. trapping HV_X64_MSR_EOM on would be a slow path relative to what's there for
> in-kernel IRQCHIP.

My understanding is that the only type of message which requires fast
processing is STIMER messages but we don't do stimers in userspace. I
guess it is possible to have a competing 'noisy neighbough' in userspace
draining message slots but then we are slow anyway.

-- 
Vitaly


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-04 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-03 23:57 QEMU's Hyper-V HV_X64_MSR_EOM is broken with split IRQCHIP Sean Christopherson
2025-03-04 12:59 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2025-03-04 13:50   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-03-04 14:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-03-04 14:46     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2025-03-04 21:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-05  9:31         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2025-03-06 10:00           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov

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